Mark Sullivan the Expose’

I find it odd that out of 240 clients he’s allegedly only had 20 charges and 17 were caught on camera. That’s 85% caught on camera. That’s either incredibly fortunate or intentional. My opinion is it’s the latter
If you factor in his number of hunting videos in total (both DVD and You Tube from 1990 to present), then the number of videos where he has faced a charge is still very very less compared to his number of hunting videos in total. If you factor in the hunting videos where he is not the producer but rather a guest... the number drops even more.

He always has a camera man with him and all footage gets recorded since 1990. The raw footage (upon request) is provided to Mark's client. Now and then, if a charge gets/got recorded or something else interesting occurred on Safari... Mark would have it made into a video. As I've mentioned before, there's a WhatsApp group where many hunters share photographs/ videos of their hunts. Including many of Mark's clients over the years.
 
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I think an additional point many have tried to make is these charges and their frequency are virtually non-existent for other long-time DG PHs. :E Shrug:
 
I assume no humans were injured in any of the 20 charges. That is good news
 
I find it odd that out of 240 clients he’s allegedly only had 20 charges and 17 were caught on camera. That’s 85% caught on camera. That’s either incredibly fortunate or intentional. My opinion is it’s the latter
Do you know how many times the cam was there and had nothing to record?
 
If you factor in his number of hunting videos in total (both DVD and You Tube from 1990 to present), then the number of videos where he has faced a charge is still very very less compared to his number of hunting videos in total.

Do you know how many times the cam was there and had nothing to record?
That’s a valid point. I do not. It really is irrelevant so I shouldn’t have brought it up
 
No one has explained how he could be soooo unlucky to be charged that many times and have a video camera soooo well situated to capture the final charge. Equally, no one has explained why he approaches wounded buffalo laying down, in the open and waits until the buffalo gets up, sees him, charges before before shooting. Is it because it is so obvious what he is doing, the faithful can’t believe what their lying eyes are seeing??
One definitely has to ask that question. If it walks like a duck......
 
Over 240 clients in a 35 year career.

He's had 20 charges/cases of him needing to shoot in total (17 of which got caught on video).

9 Cape buffalo
6 Hippopotamus
2 lion
2 leopard
1 elephant

That's less than 8%
@Hunter-Habib - that is helpful “context”, also confirms his excellent shooting ability even under “extreme pressure”…making Brain Shots on a charging animal with the consistency of a Skeet Shooter on low 7.
 
no one has explained why he approaches wounded buffalo laying down, in the open and waits until the buffalo gets up, sees him, charges before before shooting. Is it because it is so obvious what he is doing, the faithful can’t believe what their lying eyes are seeing??
Sullivan literally explains this just about every time he does it. It's always something to the effect to "let the buffalo choose how it's going to die." His style isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but he's as open and honest as anyone.
 
Sullivan literally explains this just about every time he does it. It's always something to the effect to "let the buffalo choose how it's going to die." His style isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but he's as open and honest as anyone.
This is the single biggest load of manure this character sells. An animal is wounded and suffering, whether through the client's or his incompetence, and rather than end the mess they started quickly, he goads it into a charge so it it can "choose how it's going to die." I find that ethically reprehensible, and I could care less for the rationalizations.
 
This is the single biggest load of manure this character sells. An animal is wounded and suffering, whether through the client's or his incompetence, and rather than end the mess they started quickly, he goads it into a charge so it it can "choose how it's going to die." I find that ethically reprehensible, and I could care less for the rationalizations.

You completely missed my well-stated point. The point wasn't that I agree with him. I said as much. The point was that he openly and honestly says why he does what he does.
 
You completely missed my well-stated point. The point wasn't that I agree with him. I said as much. The point was that he openly and honestly says why he does what he does.
Who accused you of agreeing with anything? I understood you and your point perfectly. I did not mention you in my post. I was referring to Sullivan's popular mantra which you quoted.
 
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This is the single biggest load of manure this character sells. An animal is wounded and suffering, whether through the client's or his incompetence, and rather than end the mess they started quickly, he goads it into a charge so it it can "choose how it's going to die." I find that ethically reprehensible, and I could care less for the rationalizations.
@Red Leg - but don’t you think the Brain Shots “end the mess they started” QUICKLY ?
 
@Red Leg - but don’t you think the Brain Shots “end the mess they started” QUICKLY ?
Yes. IF they are taken as soon as the opportunity arose. But it seems that’s often not the case. I wouldn’t limit it to brain shots either. We’re talking about a wounded animal. However, if you’re a relativist like so many seem to be the the word “quickly” can apparently have different meanings.
 
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@Red Leg - but don’t you think the Brain Shots “end the mess they started” QUICKLY ?
All sorts of shots can end an animal’s suffering quickly. The issue, for me, is when they are taken. That is typically where the rationalization begins.
 
Sullivan literally explains this just about every time he does it. It's always something to the effect to "let the buffalo choose how it's going to die." His style isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but he's as open and honest as anyone.
There is a certain 'Walt Disney' aspect to the statement 'let the buffalo choose how it's going to die'. This statement, like Disney, implies that the animal has the ability to think this through. This projects qualities to the animal that are simply not there. This was the single greatest reason I refulsed to take my boys to Disney. I told my wife, 'we camp every weekend in the mountains, let that be their playground'. There is no way I wanted them exposed to a flawed view of animals and hunting as portrayed by Disney and others.
 
I’ve taken the time to break down ALL of Mark’s Cape buffalo charges on video over the last 35 years of his career. Hopefully, it will provide a three dimensional perspective on his hunting videos. The six charging hippopotamus which he shot, were all COMPLETELY unwounded prior to the charge. So nobody can claim that he or his clients wounded them just to instigate a charge. They weren’t wounded at all.

Out of the nine of his client’s Cape buffalo, which Mark shot on video… three were at departing animals while the client was also simultaneously firing away (and in at least one of the videos, the client specifically told him to step in if he thought that the animal was going to get away).

Here are the other six, as well as the films where they occurred.

Africa’s Black Death- One charge. Client (Mr. Barnes) was in very poor health and had only one arm. He fired from the truck several times and finally wounded the Cape buffalo. Mark walked up to the wounded animal and fired his first barrel into the buffalo (an attempted brain shot) while it turned to face him whilst simultaneously standing up. His second shot kills the buffalo mid-charge. Critics often like to claim that Mark prolonged it’s suffering just so that it could charge. But that’s impossible considering that he fires his first shot into it’s head even before it had begun to charge. And NOBODY (except for a psychic with a crystal ball, perhaps) in that situation could tell that the Cape buffalo would survive the first shot long enough to charge.

MBOGO- One charge on hunt five. Client wounds the buffalo and it runs off into grass that must be eight to ten feet high and very thick. The group enters the grass in a truck and the buffalo charges immediately. Mark and client shoot together with Mark’s first shot in the eye that stops the buffalo.

Sudden Death- One charge which happened shortly after the first shots (put in by the client) and then Mark, his son, Shawn, and two hunters all emptied their doubles into the buffalo.

Death On The Run- Mark and the client walked through some open land to some brush where a wounded buffalo was waiting. As they came around to the left the buffalo charged instantly and totally unprovoked. The client’s shot missed and the buffalo came on to Mark. With his .600 Nitro Express, the first shot was low but stunned the buffalo and when he dropped his head … Mark put a second shot down through the top of the boss.

Death At My Feet- One charge and Mark only stepped in because the client ran out of cartridges without being able to stop the Cape buffalo.

Mark Egger’s Safari DVD- The client fires at a Cape buffalo which is in a patch of terrain where the only way out is through Mark & his client. So it charges/tries to escape and the client fires more shots into the Cape buffalo and temporarily downs it. The client begins to reload. The Cape buffalo stands up again and pushes forward. Mark sees his client reloading and so fires off one shot into the Cape buffalo’s head. Which stuns it but misses the brain. The client then brains the Cape buffalo himself.

Finally, I recently had a conversation with Mark and he gave me a statement which I’ve copy pasted here:
I’m actually quite surprised that people can accuse me of delaying in putting an animal out of it’s misery just because I said something about letting the buffalo decide how it’s going to die. If anything, I actually think I put them out of their pain the fastest. After a client shoots an animal (especially buff) on safari and the critter makes off, a lot of phs will actually tell their clients to allow the buff some time to “stiffen up” before they do tophe follow up. When they find it, the buffalo is dead. During the time it takes for the buff to “Stiffen up”, isn’t it suffering ? Isn’t the phs policy purposefully increasing the duration of time for which the animal’s in pain ? The hypocrisy in our industry is that somehow this is okay. But when I immediately follow up a wounded buffalo with the firm intent of finding it still alive and killing it, I’m the one accused of delaying the chance of a quick death for the animal”
 
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We had a Holstein milk cow that truly hated me. I let her choose how she wanted to be milked.

Safe hunting
 
I’ve taken the time to break down ALL of Mark’s Cape buffalo charges on video over the last 35 years of his career. Hopefully, it will provide a three dimensional perspective on his hunting videos. The six charging hippopotamus which he shot, were all COMPLETELY unwounded prior to the charge. So nobody can claim that he or his clients wounded them just to instigate a charge. They weren’t wounded at all.

Out of the nine of his client’s Cape buffalo, which Mark shot on video… three were at departing animals while the client was also simultaneously firing away (and in at least one of the videos, the client specifically told him to step in if he thought that the animal was going to get away).

Here are the other six, as well as the films where they occurred.

Africa’s Black Death- One charge. Client (Mr. Barnes) was in very poor health and had only one arm. He fired from the truck several times and finally wounded the Cape buffalo. Mark walked up to the wounded animal and fired his first barrel into the buffalo (an attempted brain shot) while it turned to face him whilst simultaneously standing up. His second shot kills the buffalo mid-charge. Critics often like to claim that Mark prolonged it’s suffering just so that it could charge. But that’s impossible considering that he fires his first shot into it’s head even before it had begun to charge. And NOBODY (except for a psychic with a crystal ball, perhaps) in that situation could tell that the Cape buffalo would survive the first shot long enough to charge.

MBOGO- One charge on hunt five. Client wounds the buffalo and it runs off into grass that must be eight to ten feet high and very thick. The group enters the grass in a truck and the buffalo charges immediately. Mark and client shoot together with Mark’s first shot in the eye that stops the buffalo.

Sudden Death- One charge which happened shortly after the first shots (put in by the client) and then Mark, his son, Shawn, and two hunters all emptied their doubles into the buffalo.

Death On The Run- Mark and the client walked through some open land to some brush where a wounded buffalo was waiting. As they came around to the left the buffalo charged instantly and totally unprovoked. The client’s shot missed and the buffalo came on to Mark. With his .600 Nitro Express, the first shot was low but stunned the buffalo and when he dropped his head … Mark put a second shot down through the top of the boss.

Death At My Feet- One charge and Mark only stepped in because the client ran out of cartridges without being able to stop the Cape buffalo.

Mark Egger’s Safari DVD- The client fires at a Cape buffalo which is in a patch of terrain where the only way out is through Mark & his client. So it charges/tries to escape and the client fires more shots into the Cape buffalo and temporarily downs it. The client begins to reload. The Cape buffalo stands up again and pushes forward. Mark sees his client reloading and so fires off one shot into the Cape buffalo’s head. Which stuns it but misses the brain. The client then brains the Cape buffalo himself.

Finally, I recently had a conversation with Mark and he gave me a statement which I’ve copy pasted here:
I’m actually quite surprised that people can accuse me of delaying in putting an animal out of it’s misery just because I said something about letting the buffalo decide how it’s going to die. If anything, I actually think I put them out of their pain the fastest. After a client shoots an animal (especially buff) on safari and the critter makes off, a lot of phs will actually tell their clients to allow the buff some time to “stiffen up” before they do tophe follow up. When they find it, the buffalo is dead. During the time it takes for the buff to “Stiffen up”, isn’t it suffering ? Isn’t the phs policy purposefully increasing the duration of time for which the animal’s in pain ? The hypocrisy in our industry is that somehow this is okay. But when I immediately follow up a wounded buffalo with the firm intent of finding it still alive and killing it, I’m the one accused of delaying the chance of a quick death for the animal”

I have to agree with Mark ..there is quite a bit of hypocrisy here regarding ways to follow up..
 

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