How Is The Situation In Kyrgyzstan?

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Hi All, I need advice on this and knowing there are many knowledgeable hunters in this great site, I wanted to ask about the current situation in Kyrgyzstan if anyone knows somenthing, I heard there is some kind of rebellion going on, I do not want to use the word "war" because I am not informed, but I already booked with PROFIHUNT, in Russia a hunt in Kyrgyzstan for ibex in oct 2011, Is there any advice you guys could share with me regarding the preparation for this hunt, the hunt itself and the current situation of the country in particular....
Thanks a lot to all of you.
 
Dear David!

I can promise you that the hunt in Kirgystan will take place without problems. At the moment, the political situation is stable and there are no doubts, that there is something changing.
In October is in Kirgystan will be voted the parliament and then the situation will be safer.
My friends from Kirgystan were my guests in Germany in August and they have reported, that the situation is safe. There are enough licenses for hunting ibex and marco polos. We have 22 for ibex and 7 for marco polo.

Best Hunt!

Igor
 
Thank you very much Igor.
 
David!


You can hunt the Ibex in Kazakstan or in Tadgjikistan too.
In Kazakstan ( Dgungaria) the hunt is not so hard as in Kyrg.
But the price is higher.
If in Kyrgisistan i can to sell the ibex hunt for 4500US (all inkl.), then in Kazakstan only for 5000US$ ( for example National Park Altin Emel).

Regards
Igor
 
FYI, Buyer beware. I booked a hunt through Igor and hunted with his contact in Kyrgyzstan for Ibex this past September, 2012. On that hunt we were arrested by the police because the outfitter did not properly fill out all the necessary paperwork or had the proper Governmental Person along on the hunt to make sure the outfitter hunted correctly. With the arrest they also confiscated our trophies of the Horns and the capes of the Ibex. The outfitter assured us that he would get back the trophies and ship them at his expense in 2 weeks and that we would not have to pay him the balance of the hunt until we received the trophies. On my return I notified Igor of this as he was the booking agent/ part owner of this operation. Igor then changed the date to December. Well guys December is here and now Igor and his outfitter want us to pay them in full for our hunt before they will ship us the promised trophies. I believe they just want to suck us out of our money and not ship us the hunted trophies we took. I believe the skins are bad or damaged at this point and they will be shipping us either rotten skins or someone else's animals not our own. First off Kyrgyzstan is a corrupt country and everyone should not be trusted, secondly Igor made all of these promises that he runs this outfitter and he calls the shots with him. Instead of making the situation right , he as added to the shamelessness of asking for our payments before we have our possessions in hand ( Bribery !!!) Now to add to all of this I was promised and set with our Booking Agent Igor, that we would combine our Ibex hunt with a Roe Deer hunt, well guess what again. The outfitter made every excuse in the book to not take us on the Roe Deer hunt , The Deer hunt that was booked with Igor. Igor uses this web site as free advertising for his bookings and uses the cancellation hunt as a means of attracting clients. We bit on this and got screwed. I can tell you that his pricing he states in the cancellation is exactly the same deal you can get from the outfitter anytime, it is no savings, they are trying to get you to fill an open spot.. If you want more info PM me back here on this forum. There were three of us on this hunt and I will get the other as well to post theirs on here too.
Steve - USA Hunter
 
FYI, Buyer beware. I booked a hunt through Igor and hunted with his contact in Kyrgyzstan for Ibex this past September, 2012. On that hunt we were arrested by the police because the outfitter did not properly fill out all the necessary paperwork or had the proper Governmental Person along on the hunt to make sure the outfitter hunted correctly. With the arrest they also confiscated our trophies of the Horns and the capes of the Ibex. The outfitter assured us that he would get back the trophies and ship them at his expense in 2 weeks and that we would not have to pay him the balance of the hunt until we received the trophies. On my return I notified Igor of this as he was the booking agent/ part owner of this operation. Igor then changed the date to December. Well guys December is here and now Igor and his outfitter want us to pay them in full for our hunt before they will ship us the promised trophies. I believe they just want to suck us out of our money and not ship us the hunted trophies we took. I believe the skins are bad or damaged at this point and they will be shipping us either rotten skins or someone else's animals not our own. First off Kyrgyzstan is a corrupt country and everyone should not be trusted, secondly Igor made all of these promises that he runs this outfitter and he calls the shots with him. Instead of making the situation right , he as added to the shamelessness of asking for our payments before we have our possessions in hand ( Bribery !!!) Now to add to all of this I was promised and set with our Booking Agent Igor, that we would combine our Ibex hunt with a Roe Deer hunt, well guess what again. The outfitter made every excuse in the book to not take us on the Roe Deer hunt , The Deer hunt that was booked with Igor. Igor uses this web site as free advertising for his bookings and uses the cancellation hunt as a means of attracting clients. We bit on this and got screwed. I can tell you that his pricing he states in the cancellation is exactly the same deal you can get from the outfitter anytime, it is no savings, they are trying to get you to fill an open spot.. If you want more info PM me back here on this forum. There were three of us on this hunt and I will get the other as well to post theirs on here too.
Steve - USA Hunter

Steve, you have sent only 2000USD for you hunt.
If you want to receive yours trophy, please send the many.
Without payment for trophy fee - 1500USD we will not sent you trophy to USA.

Best Regards
Igor

Steve with the hunting group Nayryn 2012
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Hi Steve and Igor. Let me start by saying I don't have a horse in this race. On most hunts you pay up front and do the hunt. I hunted Kyrgyzstan 3 yrs ago. I paid in full before we left town. Pretty common with most hunts. In Africa you usually pre pay the daily fees and then pay the trophy fees before you leave. No pay on trophy fees and no shipment of trophies. Now having said that, I would be very unhappy to of been arrested while in Kyrgyzstan and would likely not want to finish paying if I didn't think I was going to get my trophies back. Best solution I can see is to use a Escrow account. Money goes to escrow. Trophies shipped and when received then the money is released. That way Igor only gets paid IF Steve gets his trophy. Thats about as good as it is going to get. Good luck gentlemen. Bruce
 

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