Cottontails

I’m in Manchester. Half way between Nashville and Chattanooga on I24. Let me know when you’re ready to go

I know where Manchester is. Been through there a few times. A very nice area of Tennessee.

Let's stay in contact. I would very much like to take you up on a hunt this fall (2026). At your convenience of course.
 
In my experience those chances greatly reduce as gauge diminishes 12 sure 20 probably after that not such a sure bet.
Well, that would explain a miss my boss made back when--he looked dead on to me, but there was a heavy tuft of tough grass, and he was shooting a .410

On an additional note, any of you run into rabbits with "wolves" (land leeches?) under their hides when hunting in a bit warmer weather?
 
One of my favorite hunts growing up. I was fortunate in the fact that all of our buddies ran beagles, and one of the had some field trial champs. Spent many winter days chasing cottontails, and for a spell, we had an annual trip to Drummond Island for snowshoes.

Perhaps it’s due to the fact that I was talking with my brother earlier about hunting, fishing, and trapping together with our dad, but man how I miss those days! Funny I’m seeing this post after that discussion.

I don’t know why, but it seems like small game hunting has trailed off in general. You can bet that as soon as my daughter is old enough, she’ll be chasing squirrels, rabbits, and the like with mom and dad!

Thanks for sharing and sparking memories.

I agree there is more interest in big game hunting, a bit more interest in bird; ie pheasant and quail hunting than in small game hunting; ie squirrel and rabbit hunting.

My guess is age and what us older folks grew up hunting, and our enjoyment of being out in the woods hunting what was abundant to us back when we were young hunters.

Ahh...the memories.
 
Do the snow shoe hares run a big circle but end up pretty much where they started?
My brother had beagles when he was stationed in NH and put them to work!
@steve white - rarely do they return to “exactly” the same place they started - but I’ve only hunted snowshoes with Beagles 15-20 times and not the expert others might be that live with & hunt snowshoes much more often. I’ve used my beagles and often with a Guides Beagles and they run “big” compared to a cottontail - sometimes lining out for well over 1/2 mile before they turn. The strategy I’ve seen used is aided by GPS tracking collars on the dogs (because they are well out of “hearing” distance) ——- look at the direction the hare is headed and adjust your position as needed to be close to where you expect the hare to pass by. Also, if you run certain covers often - the hares may have preferred terrain, covers they use often and if you’ve hunted an area before you tend to know where they are likely to pass by. Snowshoe hare are the “big game” of rabbit hunting ie: like Elk are to Deer.
 
Well, that would explain a miss my boss made back when--he looked dead on to me, but there was a heavy tuft of tough grass, and he was shooting a .410

On an additional note, any of you run into rabbits with "wolves" (land leeches?) under their hides when hunting in a bit warmer weather?
@steve white - I’ve never hunted Beagles in an area where Wolves reside but have read several accounts of Beagles being killed by Wolves while running hares in the upper P in Michigan and also I think Minnesota. I also know the breeder of my Beagles in Northern Maine lost one of his beagles to a Coyote while running hare in Maine. He was Guiding men on a snowshoe hare hunt and one of the hunters shot at a coyote, the coyote just ran off and they assumed it was a “miss”. They didn’t know the coyote had been hit and hid in thick cover a few hundred yards away… A few minutes later as the beagle was running a hare, the beagle came close to where the coyote took cover and as it passed the coyote jumped out and got a few “bites” into the beagle before the coyote ran off. The Beagle had deep cuts to it’s neck and bled out before they could get the dog to a vet—— a very rare type of attack.
 
@steve white - I’ve never hunted Beagles in an area where Wolves reside but have read several accounts of Beagles being killed by Wolves while running hares in the upper P in Michigan and also I think Minnesota. I also know the breeder of my Beagles in Northern Maine lost one of his beagles to a Coyote while running hare in Maine. He was Guiding men on a snowshoe hare hunt and one of the hunters shot at a coyote, the coyote just ran off and they assumed it was a “miss”. They didn’t know the coyote had been hit and hid in thick cover a few hundred yards away… A few minutes later as the beagle was running a hare, the beagle came close to where the coyote took cover and as it passed the coyote jumped out and got a few “bites” into the beagle before the coyote ran off. The Beagle had deep cuts to it’s neck and bled out before they could get the dog to a vet—— a very rare type of attack.
Thank you, but I meant land leeches which get under the rabbit's skin. Ugly things. Where I was raised everybody called them wolves, don't know why.
 
Thank you, but I meant land leeches which get under the rabbit's skin. Ugly things. Where I was raised everybody called them wolves, don't know why.
We used to run into rabbits and squirrels with wolves, actually bot fly larvae if I remember correctly. We would rarely hunt them until after a couple of freezes and that seemed to help but you would occasionally find a scar on a rabbit or squirrel where they had one in the past.
 
I agree there is more interest in big game hunting, a bit more interest in bird; ie pheasant and quail hunting than in small game hunting; ie squirrel and rabbit hunting.

My guess is age and what us older folks grew up hunting, and our enjoyment of being out in the woods hunting what was abundant to us back when we were young hunters.

Ahh...the memories.
And as others have mentioned, loss of habitat. We grew up hunting the same farms my dad trapped since he was in the 3rd grade. All but one of those farms is now a development.

Somewhat on that note, a somewhat amusing tale of an occurrence in one of those subdivisions.

Fresh out of college, a rabbit hunting buddy and I were selling firewood from one of his properties. The power company came in and felled a bunch of trees for a power line. They’d left everything. Our profits more than covered what he’d paid for the acreage (he bought it at an absolute auction).

At any rate, I got an order, and the purchaser lived in a subdivision that had formerly been a very productive farm. Ducks, pheasants, doves, rabbits, mink, muskrat, coons, red fox, and later coyotes. At any rate, dad helped me with the delivery. We heard some shotgun reports in the distance. Dad and I said something in passing about it being so-and-so shooting geese on one of the neighboring farms. This piqued the purchaser’s interest, and he asked if we hunted. Then he asked where we did so. Dad, typically a very mild mannered, an incredibly polite and reserved guy, had quite the response. With quite a bit of attitude behind it, he said “As a matter of fact, we USED TO do it right where your house sits.” Then he went on about how these new subdivisions were the bane of society. I couldn’t believe my ears.

But I felt dad’s pain. How much greater it must be for the farming families that worked the land for generations, only to have the land turned into lots for cookie cutter homes.

“Progress”, I reckon. I understand the need for housing, but the loss of old farms and subsequent access still stings.
 
With very few exceptions there’s an open invitation for any of the AH brethren to hunt over my hounds
@Tubby, that’s a very generous offer and although most members are likely only “traveling” for Big Game hunts —- good rabbit or Hare hunting is worth-a-trip and especially if you’re a rabbit hunter. I moved 7 years ago and looked for a home on property that contained a good rabbit populations —— found many 25 - 100 acres with decent home and good Deer hunting but ZERO that had a huntable rabbit population. I now have a house on 50 acres surrounded by another 600+ acres of woods and some marsh, plenty of deer, some bear, turkey but almost No rabbits.
 
I miss rabbir hunting with my dad .Today we have no rabbirs because of coyotes .The backwards fg here says killing a coyote helps nothing thats crazy .I went to Alaska in 1998 and was in rabbit hunting heaven .They had a zillion snowshoe hares 10 to 12 pounds no limit year around .I shor 5 a day out of the pasture where I stayed eating grass they were yummy .I went back last year for 5 momths only saw 4 rabbits the russians they brought in wiped out the moose caribou grouse bsars and showshoe hares it really sucked .
 
I miss rabbir hunting with my dad .Today we have no rabbirs because of coyotes .The backwards fg here says killing a coyote helps nothing thats crazy .I went to Alaska in 1998 and was in rabbit hunting heaven .They had a zillion snowshoe hares 10 to 12 pounds no limit year around .I shor 5 a day out of the pasture where I stayed eating grass they were yummy .I went back last year for 5 momths only saw 4 rabbits the russians they brought in wiped out the moose caribou grouse bsars and showshoe hares it really sucked .
@dgr416 - Snowshoe Hares Never get to 10lb - ——.4lbs would be a big one and 5 lbs would be a “trophy”. I would think the Hares you saw in Alaska are Arctic Hares (larger than snowshoes). When I hunted Spring griz in Alaska (200 miles WNW of Anchorage) I saw hare tracks many times but never saw a hare. I would’ve liked to have taken some of those big hares
 
I moved my farm from Potter County Pa to southern Alabama. Finished the final move (except my tractors and equipment) 3.5 weeks ago.

I got into a dandy of an area for deer and turkey. The past few days I’ve been listening to a Tom gobble early mornings at sunrise over coffee. There is a hound club I’m joining for deer, and I’m really happy about that. When I asked the guys about turkey populations and bunnies+beagles, everyone reached for their phones and started showing picture after picture of bobcats and coyotes.

It’s very rural and heavily timbered and logged here. But the rabbits have been ravaged by predators. One trail cam picture showed a bobber hunting and lounging at a feeder.

Back in Pa we have some great hound clubs for coyote hunting and it works well to keep pressure on them. Good trappers still are about in good numbers for even more coyote and fox and the occasional bobber. We enjoyed superb bunny numbers for the dogs and I will miss it dearly.

I can see me going back up just to run dogs for bunnies and coyote next year.
 
Our squirrel season starts the end of August and we definitely see lots of wolf worms (cuterebra larva) during that early warm part of the season. Once we get a killing frost, the larva move out of their bodies. Our rabbit season starts in November, so after the onset of cooler weather. I’ve never killed a rabbit with a wolf worm infestation
 
@dgr416 - Snowshoe Hares Never get to 10lb - ——.4lbs would be a big one and 5 lbs would be a “trophy”. I would think the Hares you saw in Alaska are Arctic Hares (larger than snowshoes). When I hunted Spring griz in Alaska (200 miles WNW of Anchorage) I saw hare tracks many times but never saw a hare. I would’ve liked to have taken some of those big hares
They were huge in delta junction I had to get 22 cci stingers to kill them with one shot .I tried 22 lr hp would take 3 shots in lungs they were super tough .I use to parboil them then smoke them and they were yummy out of that pasture .The ones in the timber tasted like turpintine I left them alone .
 
For those of you using 12 gauge, what are preferred set ups? Shotshells, chokes, etc. what type of pattern are you looking for, and at what distance?

I have an old Franchi 48AL that was a Christmas present in 1980(?). I’ll have to look at the choke tube and pattern it.
 
For those of you using 12 gauge, what are preferred set ups? Shotshells, chokes, etc. what type of pattern are you looking for, and at what distance?

I have an old Franchi 48AL that was a Christmas present in 1980(?). I’ll have to look at the choke tube and pattern it.
@Est.1970 - while I’ve used a 12ga it is certainly not needed and I prefer 20ga or 16 ga. Regarding choke - NONE, for every rabbit I’ve shot over 20 yards I’ve killed 10 under 15 yrds. A cylinder or skeet choke w/7 1/2 shot kills cottontails out to 25-30 yrds, I used the same chokes for snowshoe hares but switch to #6 shot size. Putting too much thought into choke & shot size for rabbits is unnecessary but sometimes hunters can’t help it. Whatever you are comfortable with, confident with - use it. What is more important is gun “fit” because most shots at rabbits require a quick gun mount and fast shot - they are usually in thick cover, if Not using dogs they jump out unexpectedly from underfoot…have a shotgun that “fits” and shoots where you look. Any gauge works - any shot size works - high brass loads are Never needed but “Blast away” if you like…. Have fun - they are a Great small game animal to hunt a excellent table fare.
 
For those of you using 12 gauge, what are preferred set ups? Shotshells, chokes, etc. what type of pattern are you looking for, and at what distance?

I have an old Franchi 48AL that was a Christmas present in 1980(?). I’ll have to look at the choke tube and pattern it.
I’ve got very little experience shooting them with a 12 never had a lot of use for one out side of migratory birds and gave that up when I particularly tore my trapezoid at work. What little I did use a 12 was a Remington spartan / c.i.l. 402 basically a Brazilian single shot as for choke it had been ruptured when I got it so I chop sawed it off at 19 inches.

I find 20 gauge ideal and run an I/c or modified and 3” no5s
 
For those of you using 12 gauge, what are preferred set ups? Shotshells, chokes, etc. what type of pattern are you looking for, and at what distance?

I have an old Franchi 48AL that was a Christmas present in 1980(?). I’ll have to look at the choke tube and pattern it.
6 shot, 2-3/4”, improved cylinder
 

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