458wm reloading question

[Ridge Runner]

I should’ve perhaps been more specific. If any form of payment or remuneration is involved then the reloader would be considered a manufacturer of ammunition and therefore subject to the licensing requirements. Aside from that, the OP could rest assured that his ammunition is being loaded by a competent manufacturer, rather than a stranger met through a trustworthy chat forum.

You are correct. When a person receives any payment or compensation for , in this reloading ammunition for someone else, the person would be considered both a professional and a manufacturer of ammunition. With the latter requiring a variety of licenses.

Then there's the "Gray Area"..... With the purchase of one of these pencils, included is "X" number of free cartridges.

Unless a customer personally knows and is guaranteed by that manufacturer that that employee will be loading ammunition for that particular customer.....it's still trusting a stranger to manufacture one's ammunition.

I get your point, but....

Remington, Winchester, Hornady, etc, etc, etc, are all competent ammunition manufacturers. Everyone purchasing a box of ammunition off the self is getting ammunition manufactured by a stranger.

I wouldn't trust anyone on this or any other forum to reload for me just as I would expect no one on this or any other forum to trust me to reload for them. Until we each are confident that the one doing the reloading is knowledgeable and experienced in reloading to produce the best ammunition for the firearm.

 

[Riflecrank]

Those 300-gr Sierra ProHunter bullets will vaporize on muzzle exit at 2800 fps from the .458 WIN MAG.

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Those screwed up deep-seated rounds might need a kinetic puller to get some full-diameter of the bullet showing.

 

[Sideshow]

Just a little tip that I picked up on using the bullet pullers to stop damaging the bullet. Put a foam ear plug in the bottom. Works a treat. Just remember to remove it when finished as the powder gets hung up around it.
I like the look of that press bullet puller that @Mark A Ouellette posted.
Do love rolling my own.

 

[Riflecrank]

Those kinetic bullet pullers used to come with a thick leather disc in the bottom of them to lessen damage to the points of the bullets on impact.
That was less irksome than putting a foam ear plug or balled up piece of toilet paper in the bottom of them.

All cushion types interfere with getting the powder out, and the mess of bullet buried in the powder is a nuisance too.

I have bent the metal-handled kinetic pullers and broken off the plastic handled ones.
No matter, you can still use the one with the broken-off handle by simply hurling the "hammerhead" cartridge holding remnant at a concrete floor, until it too shatters.

Second-best collet pullers are not as snappy and easy as the Grip-N-Pull.
Use the 50 BMG hole for your 500 Jeffery screwups.
Ever try to find a kinetic puller for your 50 BMG screwups ?

 

[Joker12]

Those 300-gr Sierra ProHunter bullets will vaporize on muzzle exit at 2800 fps from the .458 WIN MAG.

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If you pull your own bullets, the GRIP-N-PULL is the #1 piece of reloading equipment you need. The patented GRIP-N-PULL makes collets and inertia pullers history! Tired of impact pullers? Gripnpull is cleaner, faster, quieter, and easier.

grip-n-pull.com

Best thing since sliced bread.
I bought every rifle and pistol calibers tool they offer.
Those screwed up deep-seated rounds might need a kinetic puller to get some full-diameter of the bullet showing.

Vaporize? Surely you are just being funny.

 

[Riflecrank]

From my early days of experimenting with the .458 WIN MAG:

See the base of the Sierra 300-gr JHP that scored on the ProChrono at 5 yards.
The rest of the bullet (mostly) must have made it to 25 yards to make that smudge on the paper target.
Definitely meant for 45-70 use.
Really a good bullet at subsonic to somewhere short of Mach 2.
Glad I have a Garmin now.

The Hornady 250-gr Monoflex is good at 2700 to 3000 fps MV.
3000 fps gains you only 50 yards over the 2700 fps MV due to low BC.

The Barnes 300-gr TSX-FB and TTSX-BT are best at 2600 to 2900 fps.

Nosler 300-gr Ballistic tips are way too soft, not quite as bad as the Sierra.

 

[Riflecrank]

That last shot th

 

[Riflecrank]

That last bullet that vaporized read slower than 2800 fps because of slower trailing fragments ...

 

[Inkgardener]

Those 300-gr Sierra ProHunter bullets will vaporize on muzzle exit at 2800 fps from the .458 WIN MAG.

GRIP-N-PULL - The Best Bullet Puller in the World

If you pull your own bullets, the GRIP-N-PULL is the #1 piece of reloading equipment you need. The patented GRIP-N-PULL makes collets and inertia pullers history! Tired of impact pullers? Gripnpull is cleaner, faster, quieter, and easier.

grip-n-pull.com

Best thing since sliced bread.
I bought every rifle and pistol calibers tool they offer.
Those screwed up deep-seated rounds might need a kinetic puller to get some full-diameter of the bullet showing.

That’s a cool tool! Thanks for posting.

 

[Riflecrank]

That brief first video on Youtube does not show the milspec Grip-N-Pull that tops out at .510 caliber.
You will want to get one of those too for pulling 50 BMG.
Three rifle-caliber tools, one pistol-caliber tool.
The pistol-caliber tool tops out at .500 caliber.
All are worth their weight in gold.

 

[CoElkHunter]

That’s a cool tool! Thanks for posting.

+1.

 

[Woodcarver]

All are worth their weight in gold.

+1 on this. The collet pullers work great, but when you load for more than a couple calibers, it gets pricey to acquire a collet for all of them. A complete set of Grip-n-Pulls are a bargain (take up a lot less space on the shelf too!).

 

[C.W. Richter]

Factory ammo. is widely available for 458 WM