416 rigby scope

[Journey]

Too good of a deal to pass up

 

[Journey]

Plan on ordering some alaska arms quick disconnect rings for the new scope.

Spendy but seem like a great option. Any feedback?

 

[Boredrill]

my 416 Ruger wears a VX3 1.5-5x20 , with Warne QR mounts , I am very happy with both rifle and scope.

 

[DaleGribble82]

Not over thinking it, but if never scoped before, you are likely worrying more than necessary. So many folks get scoped more from shooting position than mere recoil, like here in Alaska many folks earn a first shooting steeply up or downhill. Since you reference elk, you may end up with the rifle in such positions as well, where you would need to exercise proper caution between heavier recoil and steep angles.

Nice thing with many of the heavy hitters, if properly weighted, and even more importantly, shooting off sticks where your body moves along with the rifle to a greater degree than shooting prone off your backpack, its less of a concern and more of something to pay attention.

All that said, I love the Z81 1-8x24. Doesn't get you to 10x, but its a darn fine scope for dangerous game, and plenty magnification for elk.

You are absolutely right, it’s almost always shooting position induced.

 

[De_Tomaso]

One thing to look out for is a long enough scope tube to allow for proper eye relief with a magnum size action. I tried to put a z6i 1.7-10 on a Heym with Talley rings and you could not mount it as the length between rings is too far. Same with many Leupold and Zeiss. Long eye relief doesn't help if you can't properly adjust the scope in the rings.

You can use the 3D scope mount configurator to check all the dimensions before buying the scope or scope mounts and running into the problem you described...

 

[De_Tomaso]

I wish they still made that scope.

Z6i 1-6x24 EE was especially good for heavy-hitting rifles, and it is such a shame they stopped producing it.

 

[Hornedfrogbbq]

One thing to look out for is a long enough scope tube to allow for proper eye relief with a magnum size action. I tried to put a z6i 1.7-10 on a Heym with Talley rings and you could not mount it as the length between rings is too far. Same with many Leupold and Zeiss. Long eye relief doesn't help if you can't properly adjust the scope in the rings.

I am so confused. So the mounting area on the rifle, with a long/magnum action runs into the start of the bell or?

 

[Mark458]

Too good of a deal to pass up
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You will be happy with the choice you made. Good luck.

 

[dgr416]

On all my 416 rem mags I use Nikon japan made 3x9x40 scopes all on weaver bases with burris signature z rings .These lasted 2500 shots with my 416s no problems and all the hell Alasks could dish out.

 

[De_Tomaso]

I am so confused. So the mounting area on the rifle, with a long/magnum action runs into the start of the bell or?

He is talking about the length of the action being too long for some scopes. With the additional condition that the scope mounts are not prolonged backward to accommodate such scopes.

You can see an example of such a problem in the image. The scope is short, the action is long, and the mounts are the wrong ones, since the front mount base is too short. The objective bell and the eyepiece both collide with the scope mounts.

 

[mitch4570]

I have a Ruger RSM chambered in 416 Rigby. I have a Trijicon Acupoint 1x6 on it. It was my first dangerous game calibre and I shot it off sand bags on the bench. I never had the scope hit my eye. You must hold the rifle tight to your shoulder or you might have problems.
This rifle the RSM is my worst recoiling rifle and I have a 458 lott and 470 N.E. it's recoil convinced me to lengthen the LOP and improve recoil pad. Also I built a standing bench and purchased shooting sticks
I also shoot a Trijicon Acupoint on my 458 lott.

 

[BAY]

Plan on ordering some alaska arms quick disconnect rings for the new scope.

Spendy but seem like a great option. Any feedback?

I have them on two Rugers. Money well spent. Easy on and off. Just follow the directions while mounting. If you encounter any trouble, just call them. The owner is very responsive

 

[Mizzou100]

I have never scoped myself and dont want to start! That being said I am probably obsessing to much about eye relief for a scope for my newly acquired 416 rigby.

For whatever reason I think I need 4-ish inches of eye relief as to not to add to my already terrible looks.

I would like to hunt a cape buffalo one day and also use the gun to hunt elk (yes I know its excessive for elk). Right now I am looking at vortex razor LH at 2x10 with 3.8 inches of eye relief with quick disconnects.

Thoughts are, I can carry the gun while hunting buffs on 2 power and then take the scope off after the first shot and tracking begins (I love shooting irons).

I could buy multiple scopes for different uses but this option seems to fit the bill for erything I would use the gun for.

For you buff hunters, where is the flaw in thought process? And is eye relief an issue I dont need to obsess about

My favorite scope is the Leupold 6hd patrol 1x6 firedot. It has massive eye relief, you can keep both eyes open and use it! That is the ultimate DG set up, for lighting fast target acquisition. The anti-cant feature is outstanding at longer distances.

It is mounted on my Ruger Alaskan 9.3x62 with a 20 inch barrel, mounted with Alaskan Arms Quick connect rings and mounts.

You have lots of choices, but this scope is again my favorite!

Good luck,

Mike

 

[mitch4570]

Also great scope I ha e 3, just like the Acupoint no battery to worry about.

 

[Hornedfrogbbq]

He is talking about the length of the action being too long for some scopes. With the additional condition that the scope mounts are not prolonged backward to accommodate such scopes.

You can see an example of such a problem in the image. The scope is short, the action is long, and the mounts are the wrong ones, since the front mount base is too short. The objective bell and the eyepiece both collide with the scope mounts.

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Huh. I have a z6i on my model 70 in .375 and had no issues.

 

[rookhawk]

I have never scoped myself and dont want to start! That being said I am probably obsessing to much about eye relief for a scope for my newly acquired 416 rigby.

For whatever reason I think I need 4-ish inches of eye relief as to not to add to my already terrible looks.

I would like to hunt a cape buffalo one day and also use the gun to hunt elk (yes I know its excessive for elk). Right now I am looking at vortex razor LH at 2x10 with 3.8 inches of eye relief with quick disconnects.

Thoughts are, I can carry the gun while hunting buffs on 2 power and then take the scope off after the first shot and tracking begins (I love shooting irons).

I could buy multiple scopes for different uses but this option seems to fit the bill for everything I would use the gun for.

For you buff hunters, where is the flaw in thought process? And is eye relief an issue I dont need to obsess about

I know this is a bit of an old post and there have been a number of thoughtful responses already, but I'll say a few things from my perspective.

1.) The 416 Rigby is a great caliber, but it is a very brisk caliber. I do not enjoy shooting a 416 as much as a 470NE or 500NE. The 416Rigby has a very brisk, rapid recoil like a weatherby. By comparison, the large bore Nitro Express calibers feel like catching a bowling ball at 5mph on the shoulder. For this reason, I would get an optic with 4.75" of eye relief to get that optic away from your eye big time.

2.) The whole point of a 416 Rigby is its a DG rifle. That means instant target acquistion and also recoil management. That means extra low or low rings and a straight tube scope is going to acquire target similar to iron sights while greatly diminishing recoil. Your options include 1-4x Schmidt & Benders, 1-6 and 1-8 swarovskis, and the gold standard and most expensive and hard to find Swaro EE 1-6x24. (they are going for $3000-$5000 used)

3.) If I wanted to hunt elk and DG with a 416, the Swaro 1-6x24 or EE derivitive, illuminated or not, would literally be the only options I'd consider. 1-8x would be overkill, but you could use that as well.

4.) If you're just using it for Africa and you are on a budget, I'd get Talley Low rings in 30mm and a used S&B 1-4x for about $1000. It won't work for Elk unless in timber, but those low rings and straight tube will ensure your face is down on the stock for recoil control and to keep that recoil from coming at your eye when it only has 4" of eye relief.

5.) I wouldn't trust a Vortex optic any more than I trust gas station sushi on sale at 3am. I remember the Cabelas Bargain Caves used to have HUNDREDS of return-refurbished Vortex scopes. Great warranty, but it seems most people need it. Total junk until you get to their top end at which point you can just buy German / Austrian glass that is way better anyway.

 

[Graham Hunter]

My suggestion would be the Leupold VX5-HD 2-10x42 with Firedot Reticle. I've used it for buffalo and plains game and it's worked wonderfully on my 458 Lott which has a good bit more recoil than your 416 Rigby. The 2 power is no problem for close work on buffalo and the option of 10 power for extended range is there if you need it.

My second choice would be the Zeiss conquest V6 2-12x50 with Illuminated Reticle if more powerful zoom is your top priority. Zeiss has awesome glass.

Either way I would suggest the illuminated plex reticle. I switched to these a few years back and they are awesome for buffalo in any cover and light conditions. Works great for all other plains game as well. If you don't want it you don't have to turn it on.

If the rifle fits you well getting scoped won't be any issue with either of these or any quality scope you decide to go with.

Good luck

That's exactly what sits on my 416 Rem mag. And it will stay there!