New rifle, and I fired a muzzle brake for the first time...

M70375! said:
Hey Badboy,
It's your gun, your life , you don't need approval from anyone to use a brake. They are getting more and more popular. You need protection with or without a brake, so what's the fuss about. I am seeing more and more guides using them these days. I have taken extra electronic protection along for guides, phs and trackers, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone bother to use them. Enough people are using them these days that they have learned to be careful around them (most of the time). As just seen on the Ruger YouTube video, brakes are not that much worse than non brake guns.
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LOL! … Ah yeah, no. Not “more popular” at all. :rolleyes:

At a Midwest shooting school I’ve attended many times, the firing line of the rifle range has a kind of slant to it, running from left to right. So after a rain, the right side tends to be soggy and wet with puddling water, whereas the left (higher) side is all dry. The firing line is quite wide and can hold about a max of 40 students lying prone, from left to right, on shooting mats.

Guys who show up for classes with braked rifles - there’s always two or three - are immediately segregated and assigned by the chief instructor to the far right (wet) side of the firing line.

We call these sad dudes the “wet boys,” because, well, typically they’ll be shooting off mats lying in several inches of water.

Meanwhile, the rest of us, who want to keep their hearing intact, are shooting from a nice dry area on the firing line.

Life lesson: if you don’t want to be a wet boy, don’t bring a rifle with a brake to a rifle class at a shooting school. :A Whistle:
 
Well done mate, I look forward to to reading about your next adventure with this rifle.
 
I too have a 300 Weatherby I purchased very affordably from my nephew. I loved the rifle but wanted to practice with it but found I really didn’t enjoy shooting more than a few rounds at a time. So, I had it cut back to 23” and had a 3 port ASR brake installed. I cover it with a hybrid 46m suppressor, and now it’s a joy to shoot. In short mode it’s less than 3” longer than its original form and still launches Barnes 180g TTSX at over 3100fps. That’s faster and flatter than a 300 WinMag, recoils softer than my 30.06, and is much, much quieter than either. I’m very happy with it and I’ll be taking it to South Africa next August.
 
I don't remember my first experience of recoil with braked rifle. It was my brother's 300 WM, trying to make an awkward shot at a muley buck while laying prone on the side of a dry canyon. I didn't lose consciousness after the shot but it did stun me. The concussion literally knocked me off the gun. Only other experience with recoil reduction technology was shooting my PH's fancy scoped and suppressed 270 WSM. Twice. Once to take a black wildebeest at 370 meters and then a kudu at 430 yards. Both shots prone on bipod. It was like shooting a cap gun. But I didn't have to carry the gun, thankfully. Very out of balance.

I don't shoot my rifles enough in the field to bother with suppressors (don't believe they are legal here anyway). However, I know years of waterfowl and upland hunting have taken a toll on my hearing. I just can't hunt birds wearing ear protection. Doesn't work. I hunt with my ears more than my eyes.
 
Badboymelvin said:
Hey,

Thanks for all the replies. (y)

Just a quick side note, I wasn't promoting or endorsing muzzle brakes in my post.
It was more the fact that in all the years I have been shooting, I have never fired a rifle with one fitted. Not even a friend's or colleague's rifle, and I was shocked at how much they reduced recoil.
I had heard how effective they are and thought to myself they can't work as effectively as everyone says, but they do... at least this one did. And I have a fair bit of experience with .300 magnums.

This post was actually more about showing off my new rifle – but I did want to mention that it was fitted with a brake, I'd never used one before, and I couldn't believe how effective it was... I'm not saying rush out and get one! :ROFLMAO:

Russ.
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Brakes can be extremely effective but it’s two sided. The more effective they are at recoil reduction the worse (obnoxious) they are to those around you.

There are some really cool custom ones out there that will tame the recoil of a 300WM enough to shoot if off the side of your face. I assure you, you don’t want to be the person standing off to the side filming the stunt. You think your friends pranking you and gonna break his jaw and it’s you who’s getting pranked with the concussion.

Glad you’re enjoying the rifle. Weatherby Magnums are special
 
Congratulations on the rifle. Love Weatherby rifles just not the brakes. That muzzle brake appears to be a KDF style muzzle brake, 360 degree radially ported, common on Weatherby's which calls them Accubrake- extremely loud and definitely harmful to your hearing or anyone else’s standing nearby that’s not wearing hearing protection. These types of muzzle brakes are some of the loudest, if you touch one off without protection your ears will be ringing and you may suffer potential hearing loss.
 
Interesting article from Precision Rifle Blog on the long range game and what the top shooters use, most use muzzle brakes in competition per the writer and research he has in the article link below. There are articles listing what type of MBs are used more by competitors with a lot of data.

One snip is quite telling:
77% of pro shooters use a muzzle brake exclusively, 10% use a suppressor exclusively, and the remaining 13% said they might run one or the other depending on what match it is. In fact, 9 out of the top 10 said they used muzzle brakes exclusively. The other 1 out of the top 10 said it depends on the situation. There were only 2 ranked in the top 25 who said they used a suppressor exclusively.

precisionrifleblog.com

Suppressor vs. Muzzle Brake – What The Pros Use

Most shooters prefer either a muzzle brake or a suppressor. So, when I surveyed the 200 top-ranked ...
precisionrifleblog.com precisionrifleblog.com
 
I can see brakes being more popular than suppressors for shooters. Shooters want max recoil reduction and don’t care about the concussion because everyone is wearing good hearing protection. Hunting is different. Many, including guides and PHs, wear no hearing protection.
 
Jack Stevens said:
LOL! … Ah yeah, no. Not “more popular” at all. :rolleyes:

At a Midwest shooting school I’ve attended many times, the firing line of the rifle range has a kind of slant to it, running from left to right. So after a rain, the right side tends to be soggy and wet with puddling water, whereas the left (higher) side is all dry. The firing line is quite wide and can hold about a max of 40 students lying prone, from left to right, on shooting mats.

Guys who show up for classes with braked rifles - there’s always two or three - are immediately segregated and assigned by the chief instructor to the far right (wet) side of the firing line.

We call these sad dudes the “wet boys,” because, well, typically they’ll be shooting off mats lying in several inches of water.

Meanwhile, the rest of us, who want to keep their hearing intact, are shooting from a nice dry area on the firing line.

Life lesson: if you don’t want to be a wet boy, don’t bring a rifle with a brake to a rifle class at a shooting school. :A Whistle:
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I actually think that's really poor conduct – and if that's how Midwest shooting school operates, it's not a range I'd be giving my money to...
 
That's a very handy shooter you've picked up there Russ.
Fast and flat shooting not much you can't do with the big .30 cal Roy.

Should be nice and handy on the brown fellas too.

Well done, you've got a nicely rounded out rifle rack now,
time to burn out some barrels.
 
PaulT said:
That's a very handy shooter you've picked up there Russ.
Fast and flat shooting not much you can't do with the big .30 cal Roy.

Should be nice and handy on the brown fellas too.

Well done, you've got a nicely rounded out rifle rack now,
time to burn out some barrels.
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Thanks Paul,

You know, the .300Wby has always been my favourite of all the .300 magnums – and I have previously owned one before, in a Weatherby Vanguard.

But I traded the Vanguard for a Winchester M70 stainless synthetic in 270WSM (which was awesome btw), but a year or two later, I saw the Weatherby up for sale again, and I bought it back.
I only ever used the one load, the Woodleigh 180gn PP at 3100fps and it was sheer dynamite on deer.

But I ended up selling it again... (n)

But I always said my dream rifle would be either a custom Winchester M70 or a Weatherby MkV in a synthetic stock, and in .300Wby.
I just never actually thought I'd ever end up owning either because of cost.

But I ended up getting a MkV, wearing a synthetic stock, and in .300Wby... and it's even better than I thought it would be...

Absolutely over the moon mate... (y)

Russ
 
Congratulations Russ. Sounds like you have quite the capable rig.

Make sure you check POI when NOT using the brake if you intend on hunting without it. I've seen several inches change when switching between the two at just 100 yards.

I've always found brakes extremely useful. It gives me someplace to hold the barrel in the vice while I cut it off. :ROFLMAO: You enjoy it however you choose to, but please take others around you into consideration. Cheers mate.
 
I love all the moaning about the brakes -- wow . They will in most cases make you a better shooter, when the recoil is reduced by 50 percent you have way less to think about and can concentrate on the shot better. Sure , there are all the he-men that say recoil shouldn't be an issue and if it is maybe you should shoot a 22. I call BS , for every action there is a reaction period. some Brakes are better than others at the redirection of noise with the suppresser be the absolute best -- less recoil and less noise. As stated, in most cases when hunting you are by yourself so no big deal, If you are on safari the trackers are usually 5 to 10 yards behind you, and my PH stuck his fingers in his ear at the shot being aware of the situation is Key for every one. My 416 with the brake was shot 2 times , the 338 with a suppresser was used 15 or 20 times.
 
Red Leg said:
The issue is not his ears, but the ones of a guide, PH, or tracker that are at risk. Also every poor devil that might have to shoot next to him on a public range. I absolutely revile the things.
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I dont have any issues with people shooting with brakes. Imean ya its a little more sideways but who cares.
Put the peltors on call it a day.
And i prefer shooting with a can on.
 
farmer_john said:
I dont have any issues with people shooting with brakes. Imean ya its a little more sideways but who cares.
Put the peltors on call it a day.
And i prefer shooting with a can on.
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They are the mechanical spawn of Satan. But, he has indeed found a great classic. I am a .300 WM and H&H fan, but the Wby is just a tad better.
 
Red Leg said:
They are the mechanical spawn of Satan. But, he has indeed found a great classic. I am a .300 WM and H&H fan, but the Wby is just a tad better.
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Lets think on the positive. Hes one step towards a supressor.

Muzzle break today is tomorrows threaded supressor barrel
 
farmer_john said:
Lets think on the positive. Hes one step towards a supressor.

Muzzle break today is tomorrows threaded supressor barrel
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Mmm, sadly not. Suppressors are not allowed for most Aussie firearms owners.

Regulations and limited approved uses make them costly for professional users who qualify for a permit.
 
I use brakes because silencer possession is a felony in my state. It's one of many that only observe constitutional amendments they agree with.
 
farmer_john said:
Lets think on the positive. Hes one step towards a supressor.

Muzzle break today is tomorrows threaded supressor barrel
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I'm in Australia mate, NO CHANCE of getting a supressor. Our laws - especially now, have to be seen to be believed... (n)

Russ
 
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