How easy is it to get .404J ammo in Africa?

Just double checking this. I always assume .375h&h can be found about anywhere.
Hornady .404 Jeffery ammunition (400Gr DGS & DGX Bonded) can occasionally be found at Tanganyika Arms in Tanzania.

Seen a lot of it in a gun shop in Lusaka during my last Safari to Zambia.

Safari Outdoor stocks it in South Africa.

But yeah, definitely not something you see regularly in Africa.
 
Just double checking this. I always assume .375h&h can be found about anywhere.
Maybe a little in South Africa but hard to find everywhere else.
 
I’ve never seen a 404 on any of my hunts.
I have seen this one a few times.
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Zimbabwe it is not common. I could probably organise some reloads or maybe factory if given a day or two notice. 458 win mag, 375 h&h and 458 lott are pretty easy. Factory ammo is readily available and reloads are common. 416 rigby and 404 are probably available but less common, probably similar to 470 ne and 500 ne. So 375 and 458 are very common. The others would probably be available in Harare and maybe Bulawayo.
 
Nearly impossible in Mozambique according to my PH.
 
To date, all of my DG hunts have been with a .375H&H. On 2 occasions I have arrived to Africa and my luggage did not, I was able to source .375H&H ammo. I would say for anyone wanting to hunt with a 404, do so, it's rare for bags not to arrive. And I suppose if one arrives with a 404 and their ammo does not show up, someone will have a gun you can use/rent.
 
I usually leave my ammo in Africa when I leave. Except for my 404 ammo. It goes home with me
 
* * *I would say for anyone wanting to hunt with a 404, do so, it's rare for bags not to arrive.
Hopefully. I mean this isn’t the era of 1979 air travel to Africa.
And I suppose if one arrives with a 404 and their ammo does not show up, someone will have a gun you can use/rent.
True, but the satisfaction level is completely missing.

For the dedicated hunter who wants to hunt with a rifle (or rifles) he knows and loves and shoots well, …. it’s like kissing your male cousin. :rolleyes:
 
Is Norma even still making safari ammo?

Norma no longer lists their Safari ammuntion. Rather they offer,
African PH and African PH Solid lines

The new Norma website layout is NOT intuitive! These products were a little hard to find...
 
I know one guy in the industry that uses a .404 Jeffery. About three years ago I ask a mutual acquaintance of ours that was stateside at the time if he would bring over a 50 count box of Woodleigh bullets.
A few months later I got word that box of bullets was very much appreciated as he had been unable to find anything in Namibia and his supply was down to single digits.
 
Norma no longer lists their Safari ammuntion. Rather they offer,
African PH and African PH Solid lines

The new Norma website layout is NOT intuitive! These products were a little hard to find...
I havnt seen any fresh boxes come into the states in some time, is it available outside of the US?
 
Hornady gasses up their 404 ammo VERY hot. I may need another box of their brass (which unfortunately they are no longer selling) so I'll probably buy a box of loaded ammo, pound out the bullets, and reload sensibly. I hear their bonded bullets aren't great either so just reserve them for range use. But their brass is very good (vs RWS which is genuine crap!). Anyway, if buying a box of Hornady 404 off the shelf in Africa, be prepared for the increased recoil and not likely to group the same as typical 404 loads (@ ~2200 fps).
 
I know one guy in the industry that uses a .404 Jeffery. About three years ago I ask a mutual acquaintance of ours that was stateside at the time if he would bring over a 50 count box of Woodleigh bullets.
A few months later I got word that box of bullets was very much appreciated as he had been unable to find anything in Namibia and his supply was down to single digits.
My PH gets his copper bullets from a custom maker in South Africa. I am interested in something lighter than 400 gr (~325 gr) so he looked into it for me. They can make me 404 bullets but very proud of them ($3 each!).
 
Hornady .404 Jeffery ammunition (400Gr DGS & DGX Bonded) can occasionally be found at Tanganyika Arms in Tanzania.

Seen a lot of it in a gun shop in Lusaka during my last Safari to Zambia.

Safari Outdoor stocks it in South Africa.

But yeah, definitely not something you see regularly in Africa.
Safari Outdoors in South Africa seems to have basically everything you could want
 
I hear their bonded bullets aren't great either so just reserve them for range use.
Today's Hornady DGX are a legitimate bullet. Over the past few years when Swift and Northfork were basically unavailable, I used DGX ammo. I took 4 Cape buffalo, none of which went more than 40 yards. I also witnessed 2 other hunters use DGX with the same outcome. Would they be my first choice, no, but they are of good quality these days.
 

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