Elephant hunting

Lots of good replies and information from experienced and knowledgeable folks as always…
Part of your question and thought process I’m sure is centered around budget.
I’ve hunted elephant in multiple areas and Countries now.. including Tuskless, management Bull and Trophy Bulls.
Tuskless cows are no doubt a great budget hunt, great experience and probably the most dangerous for sure. I also saw the question back as to whether they are “too dangerous”? No but danger is part of it for sure
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned in context however is the difference of experience being among Mature/ Big Bulls. Having experienced “all of the above” I would tell you to hunt a big bodied management Bull. Honestly I’d say trophy but…budget is likely prohibitive.
I would also highly recommend a hunt that gets you amongst many elephant. This will also greatly enhance your experience. Some hunts you may be in or around literally hundreds….
Some you may be in the thick bush and see far less… time of year greatly impacts this.
Early season…Green and Thick..later season (October) dry and open and more water is confined.
A lot of the videos I’ve seen on YouTube and even the ones posted in the thread seemed to be fall or winter.. I’m assuming because of the lack of any leafs.
Is there a best time of year to hunt them in Zimbabwe or is it area dependent?

I know elephants are known to migrate in some areas but is that all elephant or are there resident populations that stay year round in your experience?
 
Elephant bulls will move out of the parks when favorite food sources are in season or for better watering. They will come back into the parks to check on the cows coming into heat. The cows and calves tend to move less as it is stressful on the calves. Each area has its unique characteristics that are known to the locals.
 
A lot of the videos I’ve seen on YouTube and even the ones posted in the thread seemed to be fall or winter.. I’m assuming because of the lack of any leafs.
Is there a best time of year to hunt them in Zimbabwe or is it area dependent?

I know elephants are known to migrate in some areas but is that all elephant or are there resident populations that stay year round in your experience?
It’s very area dependent. Some areas have populations of elephants all year. Some only certain times of the year or higher populations at certain times.
 
Hunting tuskless elephants is incredibly challenging. My first one was with Philip Smythe in Zimbabwe. We had an absolutely amazing time and got up close to and looked over 68 elephants before we found an old tuskless cow with no calf at her side. We managed to get in very close and and I took her with a frontal brain shot at just over nine yards.

She dropped hind end first so I knew it was a good hit but I still started to advance in case I needed to place a finisher. As I started to move forward I heard Philip call out as the 14 cows and calves that she was with turned and started to charge back our way.

Here's a very short clip but you can tell we had to exit in a hurry. On the long version of the video you can hear the brush crashing behind us as they came barreling through.
It was a grand adventure.


We spoke many times after that hunt but sadly Phil was killed by a bull elephant that had been wounded by his client. We were never able to put together another hunting trip. But he led me on the Safari of my dreams where I was able to take a nice buffalo and this elephant, and for that I will always be thankful.

An amazing young man taken way too soon.

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Elephant hunt has remained high on my priority list for a while now. If things go well, I hope to have some first-hand experience in the matter by end of April. And somehow my October Moz buffalo hunt morphed into a Botswana elephant hunt instead. So maybe, just maybe, 2026 proves to be an elephant kind of hunting year.
 
I would advise everyone to be very careful about exportable and non- exportable hunts in Zimbabwe. All hunts by foreign citizens are exportable but your home country may not allow it or Cites may block it. Beware of non exportable hunts, these are often problem animal permits which are only issued to Zimbabwe citizens. Some dodgy outfitters are using these permits and then saying you cannot export. So you can shoot a problem animal but you do it in terms of a hunting permit which is exportable. Just be careful.

Tuskless elephant are more common in Zambezi Valley and less common near Hwange and the south of Zim around Save Valley and Nuanetsi. Bigger ivory in the areas with fewer tuskless so Hwange and Save are better for bigger tusks.
 
I would advise everyone to be very careful about exportable and non- exportable hunts in Zimbabwe. All hunts by foreign citizens are exportable but your home country may not allow it or Cites may block it. Beware of non exportable hunts, these are often problem animal permits which are only issued to Zimbabwe citizens. Some dodgy outfitters are using these permits and then saying you cannot export. So you can shoot a problem animal but you do it in terms of a hunting permit which is exportable. Just be careful.

Tuskless elephant are more common in Zambezi Valley and less common near Hwange and the south of Zim around Save Valley and Nuanetsi. Bigger ivory in the areas with fewer tuskless so Hwange and Save are better for bigger tusks.

Not exactly correct, but generally you're close.

Only trophy elephant are exportable.

Not all trophy elephant are CITES authorized for export.

Just because CITES and Zimbabwe allow it to be exported, does not mean that YOU can import it. This is how the beware of your outfitter matters far more than most understand.

The USFWS allows import with strict criterion. At minimum, you'll spend $2500 on legal representation to coordinate your 50 page, comprehensive application. That applilcation requires the Operator open their financials to explain sources and uses of funds...most won't. The killing of an elephant must have a determination that the elephant in question is going to enhance the survival of the species. You need to provide 3 years of snare collection counts. Game counts in the concession for that period of time. Anti-Poaching patrol data. Amount of arrests and convictions. Overall health of Elephant and other species in that concession over that time period. Evidence of funding of humanitarian effort, local community investment, avoiding human/wildilfe conflict, etc.

May operators do not have concessions that do all that, or will participate in the effort to document all of that, or they haven't had the concession long enough to create the required evidence.

I'm 2 for 2 in getting USFWS import permits in recent years because I chose the right operator. Most do not.
 
Not exactly correct, but generally you're close.

Only trophy elephant are exportable.

Not all trophy elephant are CITES authorized for export.

Just because CITES and Zimbabwe allow it to be exported, does not mean that YOU can import it. This is how the beware of your outfitter matters far more than most understand.

The USFWS allows import with strict criterion. At minimum, you'll spend $2500 on legal representation to coordinate your 50 page, comprehensive application. That applilcation requires the Operator open their financials to explain sources and uses of funds...most won't. The killing of an elephant must have a determination that the elephant in question is going to enhance the survival of the species. You need to provide 3 years of snare collection counts. Game counts in the concession for that period of time. Anti-Poaching patrol data. Amount of arrests and convictions. Overall health of Elephant and other species in that concession over that time period. Evidence of funding of humanitarian effort, local community investment, avoiding human/wildilfe conflict, etc.

May operators do not have concessions that do all that, or will participate in the effort to document all of that, or they haven't had the concession long enough to create the required evidence.

I'm 2 for 2 in getting USFWS import permits in recent years because I chose the right operator. Most do not.
This may have been correct several years ago. I believe Zimbabwe is on a country wide plan that speeds approval. I don’t know of any denials from Zimbabwe. One of the permitting services told me Zimbabwe was 100% approval currently.
 
This may have been correct several years ago. I believe Zimbabwe is on a country wide plan that speeds approval. I don’t know of any denials from Zimbabwe. One of the permitting services told me Zimbabwe was 100% approval currently.
From folks who have successfully imported panels/ivory/parts in recent years…recommendations on service for the import/CITES portion?
 
From folks who have successfully imported panels/ivory/parts in recent years…recommendations on service for the import/CITES portion?
Yes, their fee is well worth it. They’ll submit your paperwork once and you’ll receive approval in a month or two. If you try yourself, the timeline will be considerably longer, if you are successful at all. My thinking is pay them their fee and get your ivory into the US as soon as possible before regulations or circumstances could change again. Your two options are conservation force or adventure permits.
 
Yes, their fee is well worth it. They’ll submit your paperwork once and you’ll receive approval in a month or two. If you try yourself, the timeline will be considerably longer, if you are successful at all. My thinking is pay them their fee and get your ivory into the US as soon as possible before regulations or circumstances could change again. Your two options are conservation force or adventure permits.
Are certain services better than others?
 
Are certain services better than others?
Conservation Force did all the original legal work that made the imports possible again. I found Adventure Permits much easier to reach and communicate with. Both are equally good.
 
Conservation Force did all the original legal work that made the imports possible again. I found Adventure Permits much easier to reach and communicate with. Both are equally good.
I knew about conservation force. Thanks good to know about other options.
 
Conservation Force is who I used recently with great results for Zim exportable ivory and panels. Their price went up I believe to around $3500 for ele permit processing. Lion and Marco Polo are much higher. I got mine processed and shipped to me in about 6 months. This was last year. CF also told me that the Zim permits were running smoothly and some of the other countries were more backlogged.
 
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For shits & giggles & adrenalin - tuskless every time! For the exercise & milage - bulls. Although having said that we have put in miles & miles hunting tuskless to find one w/o a calf. Being in a heard of cows certainly gets the goose bumps up! But having said that ( I repeat myself), I am about to pull the trigger on an early season 2027 non trophy bull in Zim, price is right & the area is good plus the PH has a solid reputation.

If I was to do over, I would not change anything & would start with a number of tuskless & then move to non trophy / PAC bulls & then one day book a trophy bull........


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If I was to do over, I would not change anything & would start with a number of tuskless & then move to non trophy / PAC bulls & then one day book a trophy bull........
I have no regrets having done exactly as you said...starting with tuskless and moving up the scale in price and commitment. The irony is I find myself going back towards tuskless and/or non-trophy ele. It's just impossible to beat from a cost/experience perspective. I would rather do more of those than have a few more sets of ivory. My .02 anyway.
 
Not exactly correct, but generally you're close.

Only trophy elephant are exportable.

Not all trophy elephant are CITES authorized for export.

Just because CITES and Zimbabwe allow it to be exported, does not mean that YOU can import it. This is how the beware of your outfitter matters far more than most understand.

The USFWS allows import with strict criterion. At minimum, you'll spend $2500 on legal representation to coordinate your 50 page, comprehensive application. That applilcation requires the Operator open their financials to explain sources and uses of funds...most won't. The killing of an elephant must have a determination that the elephant in question is going to enhance the survival of the species. You need to provide 3 years of snare collection counts. Game counts in the concession for that period of time. Anti-Poaching patrol data. Amount of arrests and convictions. Overall health of Elephant and other species in that concession over that time period. Evidence of funding of humanitarian effort, local community investment, avoiding human/wildilfe conflict, etc.

May operators do not have concessions that do all that, or will participate in the effort to document all of that, or they haven't had the concession long enough to create the required evidence.

I'm 2 for 2 in getting USFWS import permits in recent years because I chose the right operator. Most do not.
This is so spot on and my exact experience. I am getting my elephant over the next two weeks at my home that was taken in April 2024. I used Conservation Force. The real key #1 question to ask your outfitter beyond exportable is what has been their success rate importing elephant to US
 

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