Looking for options on the most durable and reliable scope in the 3x9 ish range.
Must be 2nd focal plane.
Must be a simple radical. No Christmas tree style stuff.
Must be able to fit a long action model 70 with tally style rings. I don’t want to run a rail.
Must have a good reputation for holding zero.
It will be in a scabbard on a quad and see its fair share of vibrations.
I was looking at the night force shv but it’s fairly short. Most say it doesn’t work well on a long action without running a pic rail.
Very interested in Trijicon accupoint but read mixed reviews on reliability. Same with leupold. I’m not opposed to buying used if it’s a reputable brand with a good warranty. I should add a solid 1-8 ish lpvo could also work as the rifle will be a 400 yard and in set up. Thanks folks.
Let’s start with the simple fact, the Nightforce SHV 3-10x42 has:
Mounting length: 5.1 in /130 mm
https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/shv/shv-3-10x42
My Model 70 Classic in .416 Rem mounts a Nightforce NX8 1-8x in 5.045”.
Above shows what I believe but don't remember is an
extended length Talley front base.
Talley offers a
Double Extended Front base for the M70 Classic. I don't know how much more mounting surface the double extended base provides.
A phone call to Talley will provide anyone interested accurate information.
https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/steel-base-for-winchester-model-70-330-post-64/
The very top brands offer the best “glass” or optical quality, but at a high increase in price. One must pay for the last 5 to 10% increase in clarity, light gathering or transmission, brightness, and color.
The OP asked for ruggedness including shake, rattle, and roll of living in a scabbard on a 4-wheeler. Nightforce is among if not the MOST Reliable rifle scope available today.
Most top brand riflescopes today are rugged and reliable. Of those,
Nightforce built its reputation on being
“Rugged, Reliable, and Repeatable”. These are scopes one can bet their life on!
At 1:10 in the above video how Nightforce
“beds” the optics in their scopes with epoxy. This video explores three reasons why someone might choose a Nightforce scope. The speaker highlights the high quality of the product, its durability, and its precise tracking capabilities. They emphasize the meticulous manufacturing process and the use of durable materials that contribute to the scope's reliability
The same speaker on the above video speaks about Nightforce durability.
Other Nightforce videos for those who can't sleep....
Here’s the icing on the cake for many buyers,
Nightforce Individual Discount Program offeres up to 30% discount from retail pricing.
"Nightforce has a long-standing relationship with those who demand optics and accessories they can trust when mission conditions are at their worst. We are excited to offer current and retired US military, law enforcement, and select government employees discounted products as our way of saying thank you for your service. We’ve partnered with ExpertVoice ( expertvoice.com ) to connect with experts like you, verify credentials, and provide an easy, online shopping experience."
Examples dated 2025.08.23
Nightforce Optics NX8 - 1-8x24mm F1 - FC-Mil
$1,225.00 - 30% Off $1,750.00 MSRP
SHV - 3-10x42mm - Illuminated - Forceplex
$690.00 30% Off $985.00 MSRP
Nightforce SHV or Shooter, Hunter, Varminter line are comparable to other major brands for ruggedness and reliability. SHV scopes have aluminum bodies for lightweight. Nightforce NSX, NX8, and ATACR scopes have steel bodies for increased durability.
Let’s discuss Leupold riflescopes. In my opinion, Leupold scopes are at least 90% overall as good as anything on the market. While not the best, they have very good glass and are tough enough for most conditions. For most hunters, they are all we will ever need.
When I was young, 50 years ago, Leupold was the top brand in the sharply rising hills of Potter County, Pennsylvania. At 15 years old, I bought a Parker Hale 1200 Super in .30-06 and a Denver-made Redfield scope. Leupold scopes cost more money than I had! At 21 years of age, I moved up to a Leupold. I still have that M8 4x Leupold complete with a 1”+ long scratch on the objective housing from when I went ass over tin cups onto rocky terrain. That tumble hurt me more than the Leupold since that scope held its zero (point of impact, POI). I may have lost some of my marbles in that scrape with mother nature!
Leupold also offers a discount program to a wide range of professionals,
Leupold VIP Program:
https://www.leupold.com/vip-program-info
Example dated 2025.08.23,
X-5HD GEN 2 2-10X42 CDS-SZL2 ILLUM. FIREDOT DUPLEX
$1,079.99 --- REGULAR PRICE$1,499.99
That is a 28% discount off retail!
[td]VX-5HD GEN 2 2-10X42 CDS-SZL2 IL
Unfortunately, the program does not include all “First Responders”.
Program rules are as follows:
- Orders are limited to three (3) riflescopes or red dots, six (6) observation optics (binocular, spotting scope, or rangefinder), and six (6) accessories per calendar year.
- BE EXCLUSIVE All VIP orders are for personal or professional use only. Please use discretion when talking about the Leupold VIP Program to others and always refer non-eligible friends & family to a local dealer.
- NO RESELLING Reselling products, making purchases on behalf of others, or exceeding your annual purchase allotments is strictly prohibited.
ACTIVE MILITARY Active Duty Military within the United States may purchase products at special VIP pricing for duty purposes and personal use only.
US MILITARY VETERAN US Military Veterans within the United States may purchase products at special VIP pricing for personal use only.
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