Vz-24 Questions

Aaron Nietfeld

AH fanatic
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
633
Reaction score
643
Location
Alberta, Canada
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Hunted
Canada, South Africa
I’m in need of some opinions here! I know there are a bunch of Bruno fans lurking around.

I’ve come across a VZ-24 action in 8mm for what seems to be a decent price. I’m just wondering if there are any years I should stay away from, or were they all solid actions.

Also, I’m not sold on an 8mm, am I crazy in thinking of turning it into a .270? Any caliber suggestions?
 

sestoppelman

AH ambassador
Joined
Apr 25, 2010
Messages
7,096
Reaction score
6,148
Media
165
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
NRA, NA Hunt Club
Hunted
Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
Do you see a U in BRNO somewhere that we don't?? Its BRNO, not Bruno. Now as to the actions, good actions all as far as I know. I had a nice 7mm sporter made on one once. BRNO didn't make junk. However having said that the pre war actions of just about any maker will be better in some ways than those made during the war. The actions made in the mid to late 30's are the ones to have.
 

bruce moulds

AH legend
Joined
Aug 10, 2018
Messages
2,168
Reaction score
2,710
try a 280 rem.
would be lovely on that action.
add a 375 and you would never need another hunting rifle except for very specialized applications.
bruce.
 

Aaron Nietfeld

AH fanatic
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
633
Reaction score
643
Location
Alberta, Canada
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Hunted
Canada, South Africa
Do you see a U in BRNO somewhere that we don't?? Its BRNO, not Bruno. Now as to the actions, good actions all as far as I know. I had a nice 7mm sporter made on one once. BRNO didn't make junk. However having said that the pre war actions of just about any maker will be better in some ways than those made during the war. The actions made in the mid to late 30's are the ones to have.

Yes you're right, obviously auto-correct doesn't like BRNO
 

Aaron Nietfeld

AH fanatic
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
633
Reaction score
643
Location
Alberta, Canada
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Hunted
Canada, South Africa
try a 280 rem.
would be lovely on that action.
add a 375 and you would never need another hunting rifle except for very specialized applications.
bruce.

I already have the 375, and it needs it's little brother the 300, but that's a whole different can of worms!
 

sestoppelman

AH ambassador
Joined
Apr 25, 2010
Messages
7,096
Reaction score
6,148
Media
165
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
NRA, NA Hunt Club
Hunted
Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
Yes you're right, obviously auto-correct doesn't like BRNO
Auto correct, right. My typing of BRNO never gets "corrected". Many people say BRUNO, but its incorrect. Pet peeve of mine.
 

Cousin Bongo

AH senior member
Joined
Jan 12, 2017
Messages
50
Reaction score
70
Media
10
Articles
1
Member of
NRA - Benefactor
Hunted
South Africa, Zambia, Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico, New Zealand, Australia, Paupa New Guinea, Philippines, USA (various including Alaska)
The VZ.24 is a fine action and I've converted many of them into sporting rifles. Those with the Rampant Lion crest are my personal favorite. That said, converting one into a decent sporter - even if, like me, you can do all of the work yourself - means lots more money, time and effort. It also means dealing with lots more hassles than just buying one of the many fine off-the-shelf sporters available today. It's just not a cost effective route to take nowadays (but that doesn't stop me!).

Some of the rifles I've built on VZ.24 actions:

Custom pseudo-Scout built on a VZ.24 action and chambered for 30-06. Many head of game taken and thousands of rounds through it. I took this rifle through one of Jeff Cooper's rifle classes back in the day - "Uncle" Jeff really liked it.


Another 30-06 built on a VZ.24 with Rampant Lion crest.


375 H&H muscle-Scout built on a VZ.24 action with custom bottom metal (5+1 capacity).


CB
 

Attachments

  • QoG6tYI.jpg
    QoG6tYI.jpg
    159 KB · Views: 45
  • LGSCz9W.jpg
    LGSCz9W.jpg
    105.6 KB · Views: 43
  • jc6TAUz.jpg
    jc6TAUz.jpg
    98.9 KB · Views: 49
  • HAawY9M.jpg
    HAawY9M.jpg
    207.1 KB · Views: 53
Last edited by a moderator:

Bullthrower338

AH legend
Joined
Sep 20, 2014
Messages
4,407
Reaction score
9,968
Location
Houston, Texas and Alder, MT
Media
176
Hunting reports
Africa
2
USA/Canada
1
Australia/NZ
2
Member of
Life Member Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, NRA, Huntin' Fool, DSC and Pope and Young Club
Hunted
USA, Mexico, Canada, RSA, Australia NT, Zimbabwe
I have two rifles built on VZ-24 actions, a 25-06 and a 375 whelen AI. Really like both of them.
 

mdwest

AH elite
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
1,748
Reaction score
2,913
Location
DFW
Media
35
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
DSC Life Member, NRA Life Member
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Argentina, Peru
Ive built 2x rifles using VZ24 actions.. The first was a 35 whelen that is one of my favorite rifles in the safe.. the second is a 270 that is lights out accurate and is the smoothest action I have ever owned on any rifle..

If I knew where to find another one in good shape at a good price, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat..
 

Aaron Nietfeld

AH fanatic
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
633
Reaction score
643
Location
Alberta, Canada
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Hunted
Canada, South Africa
Ive built 2x rifles using VZ24 actions.. The first was a 35 whelen that is one of my favorite rifles in the safe.. the second is a 270 that is lights out accurate and is the smoothest action I have ever owned on any rifle..

If I knew where to find another one in good shape at a good price, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat..

For the 270 did the mag box have to be lengthened? I’m finding mixed messages online about it!
 

mdwest

AH elite
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
1,748
Reaction score
2,913
Location
DFW
Media
35
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
DSC Life Member, NRA Life Member
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Argentina, Peru
For the 270 did the mag box have to be lengthened? I’m finding mixed messages online about it!

Not at all.

COAL for 270 is 3.340 which is the same as 30-06, 35 Whelen, .25-06, etc (all pretty common conversions for LR Mauser actions)..

I've built a 416 Taylor, 35 Whelen, 270, and a 30-06 all on LR Mauser actions.. All of them feed and function flawlessly..
 

Aaron Nietfeld

AH fanatic
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
633
Reaction score
643
Location
Alberta, Canada
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Hunted
Canada, South Africa
Not at all.

COAL for 270 is 3.340 which is the same as 30-06, 35 Whelen, .25-06, etc (all pretty common conversions for LR Mauser actions)..

I've built a 416 Taylor, 35 Whelen, 270, and a 30-06 all on LR Mauser actions.. All of them feed and function flawlessly..

That's also how I read the numbers, but there are people out there claiming that some work needs to be done to the mag, so I was hoping for some real world experience!
 

Wheels

AH ambassador
Joined
Dec 23, 2012
Messages
6,124
Reaction score
8,497
Media
115
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Hunted
Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, Zimbabwe
If you want to change calibers, go ahead. There is nothing wrong however with the 8mm. It is a fantastic Africa round. It is also a great North American round out to 300 meters, or further if you want.

30-06, 303, 8mm. Similar calibers with over 100 years of performance. Everybody has a 270. How many people have an 8mm.
 

Cousin Bongo

AH senior member
Joined
Jan 12, 2017
Messages
50
Reaction score
70
Media
10
Articles
1
Member of
NRA - Benefactor
Hunted
South Africa, Zambia, Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico, New Zealand, Australia, Paupa New Guinea, Philippines, USA (various including Alaska)
bongo,
what are the stocks on those rifles?
bruce.

The two gray stocks are MPI Kevlar/carbon fiber stocks - excellent stocks! The tan stock in the middle pictures is a High Tech Specialties stock - also a very good stock. I buy stock blanks and fit, bed and finish them myself.


If you want to change calibers, go ahead. There is nothing wrong however with the 8mm. It is a fantastic Africa round. It is also a great North American round out to 300 meters, or further if you want.

30-06, 303, 8mm. Similar calibers with over 100 years of performance. Everybody has a 270. How many people have an 8mm.

+1 on the 8mm Mauser/8x57/7.92x57 - it's one of my favorite cartridges/chamberings and it will do everything the 30-06 will do. Unfortunately, ammo isn't so readily available off-the-shelf anymore and most of the American made stuff is loaded to low pressures and velocities.

CB
 

USMA84DAB

AH enthusiast
Joined
Jul 18, 2019
Messages
279
Reaction score
369
Location
Kansas City, MO area
Media
45
Member of
NRA Life Member
Hunted
MO, CO
I have built several 308WIN scout rifles on the VZ24 actions. You see, in 1996 I was running ammo production at A-Square and Art pointed out the surplus VZ-24 actions coming into the country at $80 each. I managed to snatch up a half dozen or so. Smartest gun buy I have ever made!!!!

Have also made two .35 Whelen Ackley Improved Scout rifles one on VZ24, one on a Turk Mauser. Just wrote Cousin Bongo regarding how he is keeping his rails in place - mine are shooting off the barrel/sliding forward under recoil.

But the upside of that is I just bought a .375 Ruger Alaskan because the .35WAI shot itself apart and is at the gun doctor being fixed.

Next project gun will be a 7mm-08 for one of the remaining VZ24s.

I too have some with the rampant lion crest which was a real driver for the scout rail vs. conventional mounting.

8mm slew a metric boatload of Russians and some Yanks and Brits as well - there is no dirt on that cartridge!
 

Hoss Delgado

AH fanatic
Joined
May 5, 2019
Messages
926
Reaction score
713
Media
17
Articles
1
Vz-24 is a solid, robust action. We have one in our attic in .270 Winchester. My son used it on his first and only white tail. Deer .It's a very good gun.
I personally favor the ZKK Series action from BRNO myself ( borderline obsession ;) )
 

WAB

AH legend
Joined
Oct 8, 2015
Messages
2,189
Reaction score
4,489
Location
Alabama
Media
86
Hunting reports
Africa
5
USA/Canada
1
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
Zambia, Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, England, Canada, Alaska, Ireland
How large a caliber can a VZ-24 handle?
 

USMA84DAB

AH enthusiast
Joined
Jul 18, 2019
Messages
279
Reaction score
369
Location
Kansas City, MO area
Media
45
Member of
NRA Life Member
Hunted
MO, CO
The caliber really isn't the issue - it is the length of the cartridge. I have one that feeds certain .30-06 cartridges, and hangs up un others when the projectile catches on the side of the action coming out of the feed rails. Filing on feed rails is a tenuous practice - the tiniest bit too much and you are screwed. VZ24s are looked at for 7mm-08, .358 WIN, 8x57, .308 WIN. I use a Turk Mauser for .30-06 length cartridges.
 
 

 

 

Latest profile posts

Just came from a hunt and already longing for the bush
JPmbogo wrote on yhc's profile.
I have factory loaded Hornady 450 NE 3 1/4 DGS that I am selling for not much more than the brass itself at $75/box - see my listing for same.
Justbryan wrote on Rafter JK's profile.
Get Crazy Larry yet? Wishing I had shot Alpine Ibex too!
laurence burkin wrote on UKHunter's profile.
Hi the dude in the picture. It would be cool to know the area (genetics) of the stag you have in your profile picture. I am from New Zealand and shot a stag here that is almost identical, especially the throw backs. I can send you a photo to prove I'm genuine with my enquiry.
 
Top