TIME TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST ANTIS & SHOW CANCELLATIONS

[8x68]

I would tend to agree.

 

[BRICKBURN]

I would tend to agree.

If it would have been on the website I would have posted it here within seconds.
Being that my professional requires profound confidentiality I tend to be checking this stuff before sharing it. Others, not so much. That's life.

 

[Royal27]

Potentially reducing the lead time for PIA management

Got it. Was just curious and not criticizing their choice. Double edged sword....

The attack is already going to be coming in some form or another. My bet is Lana won't be leading the charge this time.

Yup, they will bring out their big guns, or vegetables, or whatever it is they use....

 

[BRICKBURN]

Got it. Was just curious and not criticizing their choice. Double edged sword.........

I'm thinking with all the publicity this has created there are a bunch of hunters who are just going to show up to support the event.

 

[AB2506]

Some ammo against HSUS (Humane Society United States).

Humane Society Of The United States False Advertising
HSUS seems to care more for animal rights activities than animal shelters, according to statistics.
Americans are the most caring, charitable people on the planet. During this holiday season of giving, the Humane Society of the United States uses pulling at heartstrings to dupe millions of Americans into filling its coffers. Sadly, the vast majority of the money is not used to help local animal shelters, but instead to pay bloated overhead costs and fund lavish employee pensions and salaries, or it’s parked in offshore tax shelters and spent on PETA-like anti-hunting lobbying.

We’ve all seen HSUS’s TV ads full of sad music and sadder dogs and cats, and HSUS has “humane society” in its name. Thanks to these powerful ads, in 2014 HSUS raised over 100 million from the public. That same year, however, only one percent of HSUS’s budget was spent on grants to support pet sheltering, according to HSUS’s newly-released tax return.

A recent poll by the Opinion Research Corporation found that 71 percent of Americans believe HSUS “is an umbrella group that represents thousands of local humane societies all across America,” while 68 percent believe HSUS “contributes most of its money to local organizations that care for dogs and cats.”

Recent research has determined HSUS’s own donors are confused about where their money goes. An April 2015 poll of 1,051 self-identified HSUS supporters found that 87 percent of HSUS’s donors were unaware that HSUS gives just one percent of its budget to local pet shelters. When informed of this fact, 92 percent of HSUS’s own donors agreed the group “misleads people into thinking that it supports local humane societies and pet shelters,” and 55 percent were less likely to support HSUS.

How bad is this “reality gap?” Consider that in 2014 HSUS:

• Put more into its pension plan ($4 million) than it spent on pet-sheltering grants.
• Sent $55.4 million to Caribbean hedge funds, adding to the $50 million HSUS sent in 2012 and 2013 to funds in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda.
• Spent $46 million on fundraising-related expenses — ads that reinforce the false public perception that HSUS is all about finding homes for needy pets.
• In 2014, HSUS didn’t make a single shelter-aid grant in 11 states: Arkansas, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Tennessee, Vermont and Wyoming.
• In May 2014, HSUS paid $5.7 million to settle a racketeering, fraud and bribery lawsuit filed under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. HSUS and other defendants had allegedly paid a witness who lied in federal court during anti-circus litigation brought by animal-rights activists.
• In October 2014, HSUS was sued for fraud for allegedly ripping off a dog-welfare charity based in Hong Kong called the World Dog Alliance. The Alliance had given HSUS $500,000 to help promote a documentary exposing the cruel dog-meat trade, yet HSUS allegedly took the money and didn’t do the work.
• In July 2014, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt announced he was issuing subpoenas to HSUS to investigate the group’s fundraising solicitations. HSUS has since refused to fully cooperate with his investigation. In July 2015, state legislators representing 11 states at the Midwestern Legislative Conference, a part of the Council of State Governments, called on their attorney general to investigate HSUS.
• In Michigan and Maine, HSUS put more into its lobbying front groups pushing ballot initiatives than it gave in grants to support pet sheltering. In Michigan, “Keep Michigan Wolves Protected” received $300,000 from HSUS. In Maine, “Mainers for a Fair Bear Hunt” received $1,360,000. Maine voters rejected HSUS’s initiative.

HSUS routinely spends far more on state-level political fights than on pet shelters in those same states. Two examples: HSUS spent 86 times more on its Ohio political front group in 2009 than it did on Ohio pet shelters, and 32 times more on a political front group in Missouri in 2010 than it did on sheltering-support grants in that state. In 2011, HSUS spent 90 times more on ballot initiative groups in Missouri than it spent on sheltering grants.

A complete state-by-state list of the money HSUS gave to pet shelters in 2014 can be found at www.goo.gl/zVCBvp. The list was compiled by www.humanewatch.org after examining Schedule I of outgoing grants provided by HSUS as part of its “IRS Form 990” nonprofit federal tax returns. For the period analyzed (2010-14), HSUS’s tax returns were explicit about the purpose of grants. The report documents HSUS’ grants to pet shelters in the 50 states and D.C. from 2009-2014. The data is drawn from HSUS’s public tax filings with the IRS. HSUS deserves a lump of coal — not your money — this Christmas.

Source: Grand View Outdoors

 

[Royal27]

I'm thinking with all the publicity this has created there are a bunch of hunters who are just going to show up to support the event.

Which was really the point of my question. If something like that happened here I might even drive a few hours to go and show support, so the more advance notice the more likely I could go.

 

[Wheels]

My bet is Lana won't be leading the charge this time.

Wonder if S O Asher's employee manual has been updated over the holidays.

 

[johnnyblues]

Suggestions?

As I am sure you know I have suggested that everyone involved in the industry from gun manufactures, to ammo, to clothing related to hunting should hire a professional high powered PR firm to fight the NEW fight in social media. We need swift responses to situations like Cecil. Look how quickly the anti's brought about change to lion hunting. Look how quickly the documentary blood lions was put together. I see no reason with all the money that's being generated from hunting, and related materials that we could not put together some sort of pro hunting/conservation documentary. SCI surely did not act quickly, DSC did not, we lost lion hunting, we lost several airline and shipping companies, because they bowed to the anti hunting pressure. We put absolutely no pressure on the facts of hunting/conservation and the impact it has on the local economy it effects. We should have stopped them.

 

[Wheels]

Some ammo against HSUS (Humane Society United States).

Humane Society Of The United States False Advertising
HSUS seems to care more for animal rights activities than animal shelters, according to statistics.
Americans are the most caring, charitable people on the planet. During this holiday season of giving, the Humane Society of the United States uses pulling at heartstrings to dupe millions of Americans into filling its coffers. Sadly, the vast majority of the money is not used to help local animal shelters, but instead to pay bloated overhead costs and fund lavish employee pensions and salaries, or it’s parked in offshore tax shelters and spent on PETA-like anti-hunting lobbying.

We’ve all seen HSUS’s TV ads full of sad music and sadder dogs and cats, and HSUS has “humane society” in its name. Thanks to these powerful ads, in 2014 HSUS raised over 100 million from the public. That same year, however, only one percent of HSUS’s budget was spent on grants to support pet sheltering, according to HSUS’s newly-released tax return.

A recent poll by the Opinion Research Corporation found that 71 percent of Americans believe HSUS “is an umbrella group that represents thousands of local humane societies all across America,” while 68 percent believe HSUS “contributes most of its money to local organizations that care for dogs and cats.”

Recent research has determined HSUS’s own donors are confused about where their money goes. An April 2015 poll of 1,051 self-identified HSUS supporters found that 87 percent of HSUS’s donors were unaware that HSUS gives just one percent of its budget to local pet shelters. When informed of this fact, 92 percent of HSUS’s own donors agreed the group “misleads people into thinking that it supports local humane societies and pet shelters,” and 55 percent were less likely to support HSUS.

How bad is this “reality gap?” Consider that in 2014 HSUS:

• Put more into its pension plan ($4 million) than it spent on pet-sheltering grants.
• Sent $55.4 million to Caribbean hedge funds, adding to the $50 million HSUS sent in 2012 and 2013 to funds in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda.
• Spent $46 million on fundraising-related expenses — ads that reinforce the false public perception that HSUS is all about finding homes for needy pets.
• In 2014, HSUS didn’t make a single shelter-aid grant in 11 states: Arkansas, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Tennessee, Vermont and Wyoming.
• In May 2014, HSUS paid $5.7 million to settle a racketeering, fraud and bribery lawsuit filed under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. HSUS and other defendants had allegedly paid a witness who lied in federal court during anti-circus litigation brought by animal-rights activists.
• In October 2014, HSUS was sued for fraud for allegedly ripping off a dog-welfare charity based in Hong Kong called the World Dog Alliance. The Alliance had given HSUS $500,000 to help promote a documentary exposing the cruel dog-meat trade, yet HSUS allegedly took the money and didn’t do the work.
• In July 2014, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt announced he was issuing subpoenas to HSUS to investigate the group’s fundraising solicitations. HSUS has since refused to fully cooperate with his investigation. In July 2015, state legislators representing 11 states at the Midwestern Legislative Conference, a part of the Council of State Governments, called on their attorney general to investigate HSUS.
• In Michigan and Maine, HSUS put more into its lobbying front groups pushing ballot initiatives than it gave in grants to support pet sheltering. In Michigan, “Keep Michigan Wolves Protected” received $300,000 from HSUS. In Maine, “Mainers for a Fair Bear Hunt” received $1,360,000. Maine voters rejected HSUS’s initiative.

HSUS routinely spends far more on state-level political fights than on pet shelters in those same states. Two examples: HSUS spent 86 times more on its Ohio political front group in 2009 than it did on Ohio pet shelters, and 32 times more on a political front group in Missouri in 2010 than it did on sheltering-support grants in that state. In 2011, HSUS spent 90 times more on ballot initiative groups in Missouri than it spent on sheltering grants.

A complete state-by-state list of the money HSUS gave to pet shelters in 2014 can be found at www.goo.gl/zVCBvp. The list was compiled by www.humanewatch.org after examining Schedule I of outgoing grants provided by HSUS as part of its “IRS Form 990” nonprofit federal tax returns. For the period analyzed (2010-14), HSUS’s tax returns were explicit about the purpose of grants. The report documents HSUS’ grants to pet shelters in the 50 states and D.C. from 2009-2014. The data is drawn from HSUS’s public tax filings with the IRS. HSUS deserves a lump of coal — not your money — this Christmas.

Source: Grand View Outdoors

Saw an advertisement on TV this morning slamming HSUS for their pathetic job of utilizing funds. I absolutely loved it.

Now if we can only get the numbers behind Johnny Rodrigues's Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force. The people in Zimbabwe I have talked to don't know of anything conservation related that ZCTF has spent money on.

Hey, Johnny Rodrigues! When you google your name to see if it has shown up in the media recently, and see this post, we would encourage you to post ZCTF's audited statement showing the disbursement of the funds that you raise. It would be interesting to see how much goes into you and your families pockets.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Saw an advertisement on TV this morning slamming HSUS for their pathetic job of utilizing funds. I absolutely loved it.
...............

Did you get a copy? Who is the ad from? What TV channel.
Love to get a Youtube link on that one.

 

[BRICKBURN]

As I am sure you know I have suggested that everyone involved in the industry from gun manufactures, to ammo, to clothing related to hunting should hire a professional high powered PR firm to fight the NEW fight in social media. We need swift responses to situations like Cecil. Look how quickly the anti's brought about change to lion hunting. Look how quickly the documentary blood lions was put together. I see no reason with all the money that's being generated from hunting, and related materials that we could not put together some sort of pro hunting/conservation documentary. SCI surely did not act quickly, DSC did not, we lost lion hunting, we lost several airline and shipping companies, because they bowed to the anti hunting pressure. We put absolutely no pressure on the facts of hunting/conservation and the impact it has on the local economy it effects. We should have stopped them.

I appreciate the suggestion. I have to do some research here on AH. I know a member or two that have offered some consultation on the media/marketing management side of things in this regard.

What kind of Zippy name shall we give the new organization?


ON another note:
Apparently Ivan is making poaching video. TV
I can't watch it. Anyone else see it? Is it worth while? Going to make an impression on the hoards?

 

[Wheels]

Did you get a copy? Who is the ad from? What TV channel.
Love to get a Youtube link on that one.

1. No copy.

2. The ad had Humane in the title. The ad made it seem like real shelters were condemning HSUS.

3. Probably Fox. It was on in the background as I read the paper.


Found this on Youtube. I don't think this was the spot I saw but was very similar.

 

[Royal27]

ON another note:
Apparently Ivan is making poaching video. TV
I can't watch it. Anyone else see it? Is it worth while? Going to make an impression on the hoards?

http://www.africahunting.com/threads/carters-w-a-r.25089/

Watching it now. It is very mainstream, which is what is needed. Other that Ivan saying "I'm a hunter, conservationist, and wildlife investigator" at the beginning there is no mention of hunting. That will help with the hoards I hope.

 

[Royal27]

The people in Zimbabwe I have talked to don't know of anything conservation related that ZCTF has spent money on.

ZCTF did try and raise money for a bronze statue of Cecil. Of course the response from the anti community was so little that they had to give what little they raised back.

 

[AB2506]

As I am sure you know I have suggested that everyone involved in the industry from gun manufactures, to ammo, to clothing related to hunting should hire a professional high powered PR firm to fight the NEW fight in social media. We need swift responses to situations like Cecil. Look how quickly the anti's brought about change to lion hunting. Look how quickly the documentary blood lions was put together. I see no reason with all the money that's being generated from hunting, and related materials that we could not put together some sort of pro hunting/conservation documentary. SCI surely did not act quickly, DSC did not, we lost lion hunting, we lost several airline and shipping companies, because they bowed to the anti hunting pressure. We put absolutely no pressure on the facts of hunting/conservation and the impact it has on the local economy it effects. We should have stopped them.

I totally agree with some of your post, but not all of it. The antis sure jumped on social media about Cecil. What a firestorm that still hasn't died down. Lana even referenced it in her petition.

SCI had a strategy on Cecil that I am not sure I completely understand or agree with. SCI and DSC do not have the social media skills of the antis.

Blood Lions was months or years in the making, so the Cecil incident was convenient for the producer, but I don't think that Cecil had anything to do with it. It would have been released anyways, just not to the same acclaim.

Losing lion hunting was also years in the making, Hilary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation (Renowned Hunting Experts! gag!) years ago were in Africa at conventions talking about conservation, although they tend to focus on elephants. Groups have been petitioning the USFWS to place lions on the endangered species list for years. It looked like it was defeated or at least on the backburner, but Cecil brought it back to the fore, and now pushed it through.

Not sure how the airlines/shipping companies decided to cave to the antis so fast, but likely some people on the board or in leadership are anti-hunters (or their anti-hunter spouses, mothers or daughters nagged them enough that they caved) and Cecil was an easy issue to pull the pin on.

 

[skoal]

Glad to see they found a new venue! I'm excited aND the best part is the wife is excited as well! Thanks Travelodge!

 

[8x68]

Found this when I looked up PETA's claim that they got lion hunting banned.
http://www.fws.gov/endangered/what-we-do/lion.html
Check out the 5th paragraph.

I know it won't do much good but I posted the article on PETA"s Facebook page stressing that the 5th paragraph be read.

 

[johnnyblues]

I appreciate the suggestion. I have to do some research here on AH. I know a member or two that have offered some consultation on the media/marketing management side of things in this regard.

What kind of Zippy name shall we give the new organization?


ON another note:
Apparently Ivan is making poaching video. TV
I can't watch it. Anyone else see it? Is it worth while? Going to make an impression on the hoards?

Without a well organized team to fight the antis our future is grim IMO.

 

[johnnyblues]

I totally agree with some of your post, but not all of it. The antis sure jumped on social media about Cecil. What a firestorm that still hasn't died down. Lana even referenced it in her petition.

SCI had a strategy on Cecil that I am not sure I completely understand or agree with. SCI and DSC do not have the social media skills of the antis.

Blood Lions was months or years in the making, so the Cecil incident was convenient for the producer, but I don't think that Cecil had anything to do with it. It would have been released anyways, just not to the same acclaim.

Losing lion hunting was also years in the making, Hilary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation (Renowned Hunting Experts! gag!) years ago were in Africa at conventions talking about conservation, although they tend to focus on elephants. Groups have been petitioning the USFWS to place lions on the endangered species list for years. It looked like it was defeated or at least on the backburner, but Cecil brought it back to the fore, and now pushed it through.

Not sure how the airlines/shipping companies decided to cave to the antis so fast, but likely some people on the board or in leadership are anti-hunters (or their anti-hunter spouses, mothers or daughters nagged them enough that they caved) and Cecil was an easy issue to pull the pin on.

I hear ya....I know lion hunting has been a sore spot for years and I m sure Cecil put it over the top. This is why I think a well organized high powered PR firm with all the right connections in media and elsewhere is needed to fight the new enemy....Social media. This will not be easy, but some kind of educated swift response to defend us in needed!

 

[BRICKBURN]

................ Thanks Travelodge!