Simson & Co. Questions

Discussion in 'Double Rifles' started by mfgeng, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. AZDAVE

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    I have a pre war 405 Win double and a 20ga Double rifle that Bob also built. @crs helped me with a introduction to Marie on the purchase of the 20ga. I wan't fortunate enough to have communicated with Bob, but from everything folks who knew him have said he was a true gentleman.

    The Simson will be a great doner action for your build. Also If you want something a bit larger than a 45/70 I have a 45/100 reamer in the shop you are welcome to use.
     
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  2. Gert Odendaal

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    AZDAVE, thank you kindly, you are very generous ...I will definitely make use of your offer to use the reamer...I also have available a 8x68S reamer and a 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser reamer if you are in need of such a reamer...
    I will contact HWL , a member on our forum and ask if he can find me a Simson side x side action in a 16 ga ..I believe the 16 ga will be still strong enough to build the 45/100 caliber on ...
    I would like to hear your and CRS ``s opinions in this regards???? As mentioned, I have Johan Greyling who will assist me in this build..Johan Greyling already commence building his own version of a double rifle action ...(y)(y)(y)(y)
     

  3. Gert Odendaal

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    I really would appreciate it very much if you gentleman will be able to give me Marie`s contact details??I want to ask her again about the two .450 NE nr 2 Jeffery rifle barrels I previously nearly bought ...due to Bob`s untimely passing this opportunity did not present it self...
     

  4. crs

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    I will PM you her email address ASAP.

    Done.
     
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  5. crs

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    Gert,
    I just recalled that Ellis Brown used a 16 gauge Simson as a donor for his 450 3/14 NE with 25 inch barrels. In fact there are multiple pix of this DR in his book; looking at one now.
    Looks like a very handy rifle.
    You can order the book online:
    http://www.bundukipublishing.com/doublerifle.htm

    I am not a gunsmith, but enjoyed the read and learned a lot.
     

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  6. Gert Odendaal

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    Thank you crs , I will send Marie an email..(y)(y)(y)(y)
     

  7. HWL

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    ...for the lovers of Simson shotguns....unfortunatelly not mine.

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    HWL
     

  8. Witold Krzyżanowski

    Witold Krzyżanowski AH ENABLER AH Legend

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    Good luck HWL.
     

  9. crs

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    Love those side clips!

    I wonder how many hours it took to do all that engraving?
    Good luck with the auction.
     

  10. HWL

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    Could not get it... simply to expensive.

    But I bought a 20 ga. SxS working shotgun, I could afford.

    ;)

    HWL
     

  11. crs

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    Good for you.
    I carry my 20 more than my 12 these days and on a good day, it does the job just as well:
    [​IMG]

    Parker Repro 20 in Kansas.
     

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  12. AZDAVE

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    I can see that @crs is sending you the contact info so I won't duplicate the information. Hopefully she can locate the barrels and reamer

    That sidelock is beautiful! Simson made some fine shotguns and rifles.
     

  13. HWL

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    Now I feel bad, because I have to slaughter my 20 ga for making the double rifle....

    (n)

    HWL
     

  14. crs

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    Gert,
    It just occurred to me that you could make a 45-90 and shoot both 45-70 and 45-90 ammo. The 45-90 would be a hand loading deal, but I have a lot of info on that and can share if you need it.
    My 45-90 is a Miroku/Winchester 1886 TD with octagon 26 inch barrel- weighs 9.5 pounds unloaded. This is a flexible and powerful cartridge in a modern rifle and should be a good choice for a double.
    I have considered reaming my Beretta 45-70 to 45-90, but am having too much fun shooting up the 100 rounds of loaded 300 grain ammo that came with it!
     

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