Planning out a 10.75X68 build

[Wishfulthinker580]

Author is German reloader Norbert Klups.
"reloadung for hunter"
Dont belive its avaliable in English.

Thank you

 

[John Telford]

I’m sure with modern powders and bullets the 10.75x68 could be a nice oldie to revive just for the fun of it!

 

[Thomas Rutledge]

I’m in! I bought a Ken Owen build of a 10.75x68 Mauser. Not an old gun or a collector but a nice rifle none the less. Krieger 24” on a commercial action. I have 2 boxes of loaded Ammo, an additional 56 brass and 210 bullets from 300-400 gr. Mostly woody 350s. Dies also. I’m looking forward to working up loads to match the old school 404 Jeffery ballistics If I can safely get there. Looking for advice on an appropriate 400 gr solid. Pic to follow.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I’m in! I bought a Ken Owen build of a 10.75x68 Mauser. Not an old gun or a collector but a nice rifle none the less. Krieger 24” on a commercial action. I have 2 boxes of loaded Ammo, an additional 56 brass and 210 bullets from 300-400 gr. Mostly woody 350s. Dies also. I’m looking forward to working up loads to match the old school 404 Jeffery ballistics If I can safely get there. Looking for advice on an appropriate 400 gr solid. Pic to follow.

Congratulations! I was tempted by that one myself

 

[sestoppelman]

I’m in! I bought a Ken Owen build of a 10.75x68 Mauser. Not an old gun or a collector but a nice rifle none the less. Krieger 24” on a commercial action. I have 2 boxes of loaded Ammo, an additional 56 brass and 210 bullets from 300-400 gr. Mostly woody 350s. Dies also. I’m looking forward to working up loads to match the old school 404 Jeffery ballistics If I can safely get there. Looking for advice on an appropriate 400 gr solid. Pic to follow.

Please post some pics of this rifle.

 

[Thomas Rutledge]

Pics

 

[Deleted member 46122]

Pics

Congratulations. I’m glad you made it happen. Let’s stay in touch and work up some loads.

 

[sestoppelman]

Thats a dang good looking rifle in an interesting caliber.

 

[flatwater bill]

I love the lines on that rifle. Including the subtle Schnabel. Well done. Good choice. Thanks for pics FWB

 

[Thomas Rutledge]

Any opinions on best slings for Sporter Mauser’s? Thanks.

 

[Odinsraven]

Thanks for the welcome and I'm glad to see that there is still so much conversation and exchange of ideas on this page! So a little background on myself: I just graduated college and am currently sitting at what I like to consider my quarter-life crisis. I've been absolutely obsessed with the idea of hunting Africa (and read all I can about India and Asia as a whole...so that Gaur picture was REALLY appreciated and a treat to see) since I got into collecting hunting books at around 14 or 15. I love the idea of having guns in these "classic" African cartridges and high up on my list have been old East German metric calibers (namely the 10.75x68 and the 9.3x64 Brenneke). I don't know what stood out to me about about this caliber, but its been a toss-up between that and the .404 in my mind and it came down to the 10.75 strictly because people don't hunt with it anymore. Horrible reasoning I know but I blame the books for that one. Realistically speaking, this gun wouldn't necessarily be a buffalo gun until down the line and even then I'd prefer something bigger.

For the tl/dr: It's a caliber I've read about and wanted to shoot since I was a teenager, and I figured it would be a fun gun to start off a collection!

For the (seemingly large amount) of .404 advocates out there: any big differences on actions that would be required to hold it? I know it's a longer cartridge so at that point you'd be looking at something magnum length?

And as I type this I see that someone was kind enough to post the exact book that started me on this question! there's a permanent bookmark on page 96 of my copy of African Rifles and Cartridges since I've wanted this gun for so long.

Go for it Sir I recently purchased an original in Europe .........built of a 98 mauser action

 

[AZDAVE]

Nice lines, simple understated working mans rifle. Congratz!

 

[Francois R]

The problem is not the 10.75 x 68 Mauser the problem is it was about 90 years to early in design... the world only now catches up with it's design... the new 400gr bullets give a sectional density of 3.46 in comparison the .404 jeffery (10.72 mm bullet diameter), of which I own a custom London best rifle, gives you mmm yep you guessed it the same SD. But yes I know the 'smart people' here is going to scream 'velocity' ... mmm really ok lets look at that .... the case capacity of the 10.75 is circa 95 grs and the case capacity of the .375 H&H is ? yep you guessed it 95 grs of powder... and now the next person is going to say yes but what about 'chamber pressure' the answer here is learn to be become a hand loader not a reloader... the burnrate of the powders in fact of the 10.75 is faster than the .404 , eg. IMR 3031 and even the same as the .404 eg. N202 ... so you can load it with as slow burning powder as the .404 but you can even load it with equal faster powders like the .375 H&H and even a touch faster like the powders above....if you know how to work up loads using a micrometer then you'll be just fine... choose the right bullet and you'll kill everything on the planet, including everything in Africa. This was a rifle cartridge waaaay before its time, powders and bullet design had to catch up with it... O and you use 16% less powder than the .404... This is a great cartridge IF you a true hunter because all true hunters know their rifles and are hand loaders not reloaders... theres a difference... in this case about 11000 psi ...

 

[Nevada Mike]

If I was determined to build a 10.75X 68 I would look for a classic commercial Mauser action and start there. If I just wanted one to carry and shoot, I think I would look for an original Mauser in that caliber.

Good luck to you. Don’t let any of these crusty curmudgeons talk you out of you dream rifle!

 

[Zinz]

Love mine…

Ed Z

 

[Francois R]

All my rifles are original Oberndorf Mausers, As and Bs, even my 'London Best' rifles in my collection of some 27+ rifles are built on 'rescued' Oberndorf actions... two of my rifle are from the first year of Oberdorf 98 action productions... in the first year of the Oberdorf factory there was only 900 actions made... two of those are in my collection... Ironically many people ask me do I love my double square bridge actions... my reply 'No I don't' is my reply and then the obvious next question follows 'but why' my answer 'because I do not own one and I've got very little desire too as well' next question 'BUT WHY ?!' the answer is simple 'because the double square bridge was a development in a era 1940's ish when 1. Africa was conquired and the era of large game hunting in the true African context was already over so they have little significance in African history and like wise in the Afrikaans / Dutch / German history of 'settlers and Boers/farmers (I'm orignally from Potchefstroom in the old Western Travl) and secondly because the doubel square bridge was developed almost exlusively to cater for scoped rifles as this was the era when rifle scopes were being developed in larger scale eg Pecar scopes... My collection stops at single bridge Mauser actions but by far my most beloved Mausers are the turn of the century actions 1898 -1920s.. this was the era of open flip up sights and hunting in the true sense of the word 200m and in ... beyond that the flag flip up sight covers the animal and you can just as well close your eyes and pull the trigger... I'm tired of all the BS flying around about this and that 600 yard shot and the skill and bla bla thats being pushed and sold as 'long range hunting' ... really ?? you want to tell me there is more skill involved in that than the Bushmen hunting Oryx in the desert with a bow and arrow at 25 meters ? or being able to take a well placed shot with open sights at 80-120 or so meters ?? What planet are you living on ? at 400yards, - 375 m a deers eyesight is so bad he cant distinghwish between you and a London red bus ... its all Bull**it and its our genenration that let the young wet behind the ears lot get away with it ! If I made the laws the first law would be ban any scope over 12x for hunting... if you can't get close and use the right bullet go play golf .... these are animals entrusted to us which we should respect the idea of throwing lead at them from the next post code is garbadge and should be outlawed .... getting back to building a classic bolt action rifle in large calibre for the big 5 ... 1. Controlled feed action - ONLY 2. Mauser action (its the original and the GOAT no argument) 3. Ex military action made in the 20s,30s, 40s all good afterall we built .505 Gibbs on them so they'll handle any thing with a case capacity of less than 190grs easily, your shoulder won't ! (and yes there is other good controlled feed actions around but all of those DNA is 85% Mauser anyway)... the golden rule with these actions you use them as they were made... in a industial factory... no bs engravings and the cardinal sin breaking up numbers mantching actions, bottom metal, screws, triggers etc unless they are unsafe, and even then you keep the originals safe... you can swap all that as much as you like on a remington, winchester mod 70 (which was a Mauser rippoff anyway from the 1930s) etc but you do that to a orignal Mauser action and I catch you, make damn sure you have a good Sanlam policy your wifes going to need it !... anyway runt over ... bottom line be respectful and true to yourself and remembers you do not own these classic rifles you merely priviladged to spend some time of your life in their presence !