No mercy for thieves

[Betterinthebush]

In particular cattle thieves. I harbor a special hatred for the vermin that would steal cattle. The financial loss is obviously huge, but what many outside agriculture may not fully appreciate is the loss in terms of sweat equity investment in every single calf and heifer lost to thieves.

This particular crime could be curtailed swiftly if the thief’s last load was himself at the end of a 5/8” braided hemp rope.

https://www.farmprogress.com/cattle-news/cattle-rustling-surge-is-your-ranch-next-

Colo. ranchers suspect theft as nearly 200 calves disappear | AGDAILY

Authorities in Montrose County, Colorado, are investigating the mysterious disappearance of 180 cattle from the Uncompahgre Plateau.

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[JimP]

I have a friend who lived south of Denver in a smaller town. Her boy was raising a couple of steers for his family and friends. He is on the gentler side so he never had the steers branded, yep, they disappeared one night.

He actually found them at the sale barn but could never prove ownership due to no brand or documented markings, he knew that they were his by the way they acted when he was near. He had raised them as pets and they would walk right up to him to get their bucket of grain.

In a area that I deer hunted in Utah on the Southwest Desert area there are signs all over the place offering a $2000 reward for rustlers. They did catch some that had a processing truck. It had all the equipment in it to butcher a steer including winches to pull them inside of the truck box. They had two or three steers inside of the box when they were caught.

 

[Hornedfrogbbq]

It is heavily punished in Texas. Somw would say it is disproportionately so but as a cow/calf operator, we nevwr think the rules are stiff enough.

In many cases, the decades of genetic work make the loss of a cow massively more than the weight x price value.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

In particular cattle thieves. I harbor a special hatred for the vermin that would steal cattle. The financial loss is obviously huge, but what many outside agriculture may not fully appreciate is the loss in terms of sweat equity investment in every single calf and heifer lost to thieves.

This particular crime could be curtailed swiftly if the thief’s last load was himself at the end of a 5/8” braided hemp rope.

https://www.farmprogress.com/cattle-news/cattle-rustling-surge-is-your-ranch-next-

Colo. ranchers suspect theft as nearly 200 calves disappear | AGDAILY

Authorities in Montrose County, Colorado, are investigating the mysterious disappearance of 180 cattle from the Uncompahgre Plateau.

www.agdaily.com

@Betterinthebush
The last person I caught stealing stuff off my car ended up with a dislocated shoulder and a broken arm.
My wife called the police and I told them what I had done.
They read my statement back and it stated that whilst I was chasing the alleged thief he tripped and fell across a gutter injuring himself and I attempted to render first aid whilst the ambulance arrived.
When I said no I broke the thieving arseholes arm.
They said no we have your statement .
They asked the thief is this was correct he said no. The police said they will leave him with me to finish the job.
The prick soon said the police statement was correct so they took him to hospital. Nothing more was ever said.
I think he was cured of his stealing habits.
Bob

 

[Flbt]

In particular cattle thieves. I harbor a special hatred for the vermin that would steal cattle. The financial loss is obviously huge, but what many outside agriculture may not fully appreciate is the loss in terms of sweat equity investment in every single calf and heifer lost to thieves.

This particular crime could be curtailed swiftly if the thief’s last load was himself at the end of a 5/8” braided hemp rope.

https://www.farmprogress.com/cattle-news/cattle-rustling-surge-is-your-ranch-next-

Colo. ranchers suspect theft as nearly 200 calves disappear | AGDAILY

Authorities in Montrose County, Colorado, are investigating the mysterious disappearance of 180 cattle from the Uncompahgre Plateau.

www.agdaily.com

There a reason cattle on horse thieves were hung.
And the old guys that usto be around did teach the 13 loop knot.

 

[Flbt]

@Betterinthebush
The last person I caught stealing stuff off my car ended up with a dislocated shoulder and a broken arm.
My wife called the police and I told them what I had done.
They read my statement back and it stated that whilst I was chasing the alleged thief he tripped and fell across a gutter injuring himself and I attempted to render first aid whilst the ambulance arrived.
When I said no I broke the thieving arseholes arm.
They said no we have your statement .
They asked the thief is this was correct he said no. The police said they will leave him with me to finish the job.
The prick soon said the police statement was correct so they took him to hospital. Nothing more was ever said.
I think he was cured of his stealing habits.
Bob

The last one I Cought called 911 on his self he didn’t think he was leaving.
I don’t know why he was so scared.

 

[Grandpa Moose]

I’d feed their testicules to my dog

 

[farmer_john]

In particular cattle thieves. I harbor a special hatred for the vermin that would steal cattle. The financial loss is obviously huge, but what many outside agriculture may not fully appreciate is the loss in terms of sweat equity investment in every single calf and heifer lost to thieves.

This particular crime could be curtailed swiftly if the thief’s last load was himself at the end of a 5/8” braided hemp rope.

https://www.farmprogress.com/cattle-news/cattle-rustling-surge-is-your-ranch-next-

Colo. ranchers suspect theft as nearly 200 calves disappear | AGDAILY

Authorities in Montrose County, Colorado, are investigating the mysterious disappearance of 180 cattle from the Uncompahgre Plateau.

www.agdaily.com

Wonder if you could put air tags in collars. Or something unobtrusive. Track the herd.

 

[Flbt]

Maybe a cowbell

Wonder if you could put air tags in collars. Or something unobtrusive. Track the herd.

 

[farmer_john]

Maybe a cowbell

I was thinking like in parts of europe all the cows do have a collar with a bell. But how hard would it be to out a collar on with a discrete tracker
EVen if you lose the cows and they remove collar. They have to handle it. And it will show last known location and possible travel routes

 

[ActionBob]

Maybe a cowbell

Most nowadays have an EID in their ear. Not very discrete other than if it is cut out the hole will still be there.

 

[Hedge774]

I'm not a cattle man, but could we not chip them like a cat or dog?

 

[Flbt]

Most nowadays have an EID in their ear. Not very discrete other than if it is cut out the hole will still be there.

Must be bigger farms
I have not seen that on any of the small places here. But I have not done much with cows in about 5 years also.

 

[Betterinthebush]

Most nowadays have an EID in their ear. Not very discrete other than if it is cut out the hole will still be there.

I have EID in all my girls and I’m waiting on Alabama Secretary of State office to approve and place my template in the brand book so I can start fire branding.

 

[Flbt]

Most nowadays have an EID in their ear. Not very discrete other than if it is cut out the hole will still be there.
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Thoes tags were shown here and was supposed to allow tracking to the original ranch by the usda
I don’t know any one that got them.

The cost was way to high when it came out.
And here we have a lot of cows but it’s a lot of people with small heards.
The last time I saw the numbers I want to say the average farm had 55 or less cows.

 

[Betterinthebush]

I'm not a cattle man, but could we not chip them like a cat or dog?

EID tags are what beef and dairy producers use. Just like a chip only it’s a double button tag that is placed on the ear.

 

[Hyde Hunter]

few years back I had a cowboy in work and asked him about any rustling going on. he said not now seems they found some guy hanging from a telephone pole a few weeks ago. no more issues. Back in the mid 80's a buddy and I walked into an old barn on a old ranch in Nevada, it looked deserted and found a guy hanging from the rafters in the barn. called Sheriff he came out said case closed

 

[ActionBob]

Thoes tags were shown here and was supposed to allow tracking to the original ranch by the usda
I don’t know any one that got them.

The cost was way to high when it came out.
And here we have a lot of cows but it’s a lot of people with small heards.
The last time I saw the numbers I want to say the average farm had 55 or less cows.

That is the unique USDA number on the tag and that is what an electronic scanner will bring up. You register your farm with USDA and report the series of numbered tags you buy. Then when a processor scans the tag they can trace it back to the source. If the farm sold it as a calf or feeder, they should have records showing the sale. In addition to theft, it allows food traceability which for example if a carcass comes back positive for antibiotics or something, it can be traced. Good for consumers and consumer confidence.

I don't get your herd size reference. These tags are an individual investment per head. Not a herd size dependent technology.

 

[farmer_john]

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That is the unique USDA number on the tag and that is what an electronic scanner will bring up. You register your farm with USDA and report the series of numbered tags you buy. Then when a processor scans the tag they can trace it back to the source. If the farm sold it as a calf or feeder, they should have records showing the sale. In addition to theft, it allows food traceability which for example if a carcass comes back positive for antibiotics or something, it can be traced. Good for consumers and consumer confidence.

I don't get your herd size reference. These tags are an individual investment per head. Not a herd size dependent technology.

But it doesnt track thats why i was saying air tags. Or something. Youll know where it pings last location

 

[Scott CWO]

I have a friend who lived south of Denver in a smaller town. Her boy was raising a couple of steers for his family and friends. He is on the gentler side so he never had the steers branded, yep, they disappeared one night.

He actually found them at the sale barn but could never prove ownership due to no brand or documented markings, he knew that they were his by the way they acted when he was near. He had raised them as pets and they would walk right up to him to get their bucket of grain.

In an area that I deer hunted in Utah on the Southwest Desert area there are signs all over the place offering a $2000 reward for rustlers. They did catch some that had a processing truck. It had all the equipment in it to butcher a steer including winches to pull them inside of the truck box. They had two or three steers inside of the box when they were caught.

Who was selling your friend’s steers? There are other justice remedies available and handled privately.