Moving/charging target

[DWB]

At BASA we use the Colin Patrick Charge Boxes.

Colin Patrick Training

 

[grand veneur]

Any system that moves targets from a range in your direction can be used for this. Unfortunately, this practice is prohibited at our shooting ranges for safety reasons. Shooting at targets moving laterally is only possible. This is now mandatory for participating in driven hunts. That left us only with military training grounds to practice with charging targets, which is hardly possible anymore.

 

[DLSJR]

At BASA we use the Colin Patrick Charge Boxes.

Colin Patrick Training

That looks very interesting.

 

[grand veneur]

I would have a target for that.

 

[Miletic]

I’ve done some research but can’t find any “decent” information on fabricating a moving target to replicate a charge of a animal, have herd some folks having them and some shooting schools havimg them, was wanting to make one for the house, any information would be helpful and much appreciated.

You take a motor from an old car that starts the wipers. Each of them has several speeds, you can change them. You place a thin cable or wire along which the target will move. You place a target on a frame made of plastic or wood. On the top of that frame you will tie some rope that is connected to the wiper motor. You must have two circles on which that string will be wound when the target moves. You connect the battery from the car to the engine and let the target run in the direction where you placed the wire. The simplest and has a low pric

 

[skydiver386]

At BASA we use the Colin Patrick Charge Boxes.

Colin Patrick Training

Excellent product, especially the targets. The going away targets are an excellent idea.

 

[spike.t]

I Would love to. Im actually trying to figure out a hunt for 2027.

Don't wish for things that can go to shit in a split second......experienced phs get killed ...so a client as has been said might be not as jacked up as they think......

 

[Dublinpiper90]

At BASA we use the Colin Patrick Charge Boxes.

Colin Patrick Training

Thanks this in combination with others replies is what I’ve been looking for

 

[jcs271]

I put on the Safari Rifle Challenge in Montana for 14yrs. I experimented with a variety of ways to move targets from hand pulling with ropes to small electrical motors. The best system (fasted speed, powerful motor, reversible directions) was one I created by fashioning an external hub for the drive wheel of an ATV. Set the bike frame up on a wood block, and a rider can move the target forward or reverse at any speed desired. It was cheap and easy to make and it worked well.

I used a lot of these life size photo realistic cardboard animals for targets. The shooters loved them.

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[Anbessa Gedai]

I put on the Safari Rifle Challenge in Montana for 14yrs. I experimented with a variety of ways to move targets from hand pulling with ropes to small electrical motors. The best system (fasted speed, powerful motor, reversible directions) was one I created by fashioning an external hub for the drive wheel of an ATV. Set the bike frame up on a wood block, and a rider can move the target forward or reverse at any speed desired. It was cheap and easy to make and it worked well.

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I used a lot of these life size photo realistic cardboard animals for targets. The shooters loved them.

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Shop animal cardboard cutouts featuring pets and wildlife standees. Perfect for parties, classrooms, and themed décor with durable, easy-to-display designs that add instant personality.

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Can you post a video of this in practice?

 

[jcs271]

Sorry, no video to post.
The other extremely popular scenario that I had was the Charging Water Jugs. I built a cart that had three hooks on it, each holding a one gallon water jug. With two shooters on the line (low ready, safety on) we would start the cart at about 20yds then give the command to fire.

Each shooter had to shoot the outside jug on their side and then they race to be the first one to shoot the center jug.

It was rope pulled at a fast walk. This was the most popular event every year hands down.

 

[mitch4570]

I'm not sure skeet shooting skills transfers to rifle skills. Shooting shotgun you should be only seeing the target not the barrel of you shotgun. Rifle you need to see your front sight. Quote Mark sullivan, "when in a fight front sight".

 

[mitch4570]

I put on the Safari Rifle Challenge in Montana for 14yrs. I experimented with a variety of ways to move targets from hand pulling with ropes to small electrical motors. The best system (fasted speed, powerful motor, reversible directions) was one I created by fashioning an external hub for the drive wheel of an ATV. Set the bike frame up on a wood block, and a rider can move the target forward or reverse at any speed desired. It was cheap and easy to make and it worked well.

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I used a lot of these life size photo realistic cardboard animals for targets. The shooters loved them.

Animal Life-Sized Cardboard Cutouts - Shop Large Cardboard Standees of Your Favorite Animals | Allposters

Shop animal cardboard cutouts featuring pets and wildlife standees. Perfect for parties, classrooms, and themed décor with durable, easy-to-display designs that add instant personality.

www.allposters.com

Fantastic idea!

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I'm not sure skeet shooting skills transfers to rifle skills. Shooting shotgun you should be only seeing the target not the barrel of you shotgun. Rifle you need to see your front sight. Quote Mark sullivan, "when in a fight front sight".

I can always tell by the motion of gun barrel when a novice skeet shooter is trying to "aim" his shotgun, i.e. looking at the bead or barrel. "Eyes on the target, NOT the gun!" Mark Sullivan's advice is ... wrong. If the gun, rifle or shotgun, fits the shooter perfectly, then his eyes are automatically in line with the gun barrel when mounted. He does not need to look for the front sight. Indeed, he should NOT be looking for it. If the gun fits then it's merely a matter of hands following the eyes which are on the moving target. Shooting a moving target with iron sights should always be a close range affair. Always. With a scope, things are different ... somewhat. Then it's possible to "look through" the reticle at the moving target. Again, the gun needs to fit the shooter PERFECTLY. When rifle is shouldered the full field of view MUST come into view automatically. I suspect Sullivan is not looking at the front sight. He just doesn't realize he's not looking at it. The major point he's obviously trying to make is the shooter should not try to line up the rear sight with front bead when an angry 1700 lb animal is inbound at 35 mph. And that I agree with. Forget the sights. Shoot instinctively. When shooting at moving targets, one does not need to see the front sight of a rifle any more than the front bead of a shotgun. In fact, many coaches remove the bead on students' shotguns.

 

[mitch4570]

Well it's hard to argue with Mark Sullivans skill at shooting charging dangerous game. I have not shot any dangerous game yet, so can not say. I'm not a bad skeet shot 90%er. I have shot across the course high power. The best shots there all say the last thing you should be lazer focused on is the front sight. Of couse this is up to 600 yards not a charging buff at 10 yards. I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has experienced a charge and what they remember seeing.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Well it's hard to argue with Mark Sullivans skill at shooting charging dangerous game. I have not shot any dangerous game yet, so can not say. I'm not a bad skeet shot 90%er. I have shot across the course high power. The best shots there all say the last thing you should be lazer focused on is the front sight. Of couse this is up to 600 yards not a charging buff at 10 yards. I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has experienced a charge and what they remember seeing.

I have quite a bit of experience shooting moving targets with a rifle. Among them this gemsbuck in 2019 that was "charging". We saw her coming at a gallop at about 120 yards away when she went into an acacia thicket. I saw her coming out our end still at full gallop and I got off the sticks. We were standing in the open and I'm convinced she was looking at me and still coming straight for us. I fired and PH said "You hit her!" But she kept coming. I put another 165 gr Partition bullet into her as she ran by at 12 yards. Both shots hit her in the heart. PH said I should let them fall over. My response was gemcbuck can be dangerous and 12 yards is awful close. He agreed.

Shot this bull buffalo on the fly at 60 yards with my PH's 375. Hit him just behind right shoulder as he was quartering away. As we ran after it PH asked were I hit it and I pointed behind my shoulder. I did shoot him again in the chest but he was already done.

And this muley buck at 100 yards flattened on the fly.

And this coyote the next year at 50 yards running full tilt.

 

[Bearbait1]

It seems to me that a setup like in the video wouldn’t provide much practice. A target that is traveling straight and level towards the shooter is essentialy a standing target.

 

[mitch4570]

Excellent shooting Ontario Hunter! I notice all the rifles are scoped. Can you please explain what you are seeing with the shots shown. Lead etc...

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Excellent shooting Ontario Hunter! I notice all the rifles are scoped. Can you please explain what you are seeing with the shots shown. Lead etc...

To be truthful I'm not sure what I'm seeing. Fairly certain the magnification on those animals was 4.5x. Don't know if both eyes were open but I doubt it. My left eye is badly damaged from three retina detachments and surgery. It does not see things in concert with shooting right eye. So I trained myself to shoot skeet with left eye closed as gun is mounted. I imagine it is similarly closed when shooting moving targets with scoped rifle. Possibly both eyes open for the second shot at gemsbuck. She was very close. The bullet hit the running buffalo exactly where I expected so presumably that's where the crosshairs were placed. Same with running coyote. Hit through the heart exactly where I expected the bullet would go. The buck is different. He was running just over 100 yards. I put the crosshairs slightly forward expecting him to run into it at that distance. Slightly forward is where it hit, underneath where the rifle is laying. I would never attempt a running shot at any distance beyond that.

I would never advise anyone to take running shots unless highly experienced ... with a gun that fits perfectly. Keep in mind I've been hunting with the same rifle since 1964 and I shoot several thousand rounds of skeet per year.

 

[mitch4570]

This RSA PH school has a video on a social media site where they have a charging cape buffalo.

Northern Cape Professional Hunters School

The Hunting School caters for anybody who is passionate about hunting and wants to extend their knowledge to every aspect of professional hunting.

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I posted about holding 2 extra rounds between your fingers. No one was a fan of this. The guy that shoots the buff is holding 2 extra rounds between his fingers on his rigjt hand. It really doesn't work for me.