Jeffery P14 404 Inquiry

[Sarg]

Haha, great story that is, can't beat that sort of thing & explains why you left the only thing I don't really like on these & that's that Bloody safety !

 

[One Day...]

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M17 in 404 Jeffery that I’m a little sweet on

Beautiful rifle

Just FYI, you have the sling mounted upside down on the rifle.

The part with the two rubberized lines is supposed to be up, as the rubberized inserts are designed to prevent the sling from sliding on the shoulder.

 

[Flipper Dude]

Beautiful rifle

Just FYI, you have the sling mounted upside down on the rifle.

The part with the two rubberized lines is supposed to be up, as the rubberized inserts are designed to prevent the sling from sliding on the shoulder.

Very observant. I do carry it in the right position. Must have taken it off for cleaning and not paid attention reattaching. Or I could be one of those “carry muzzle down” guys.
Nah.

 

[WAB]

Beautiful rifle

Just FYI, you have the sling mounted upside down on the rifle.

The part with the two rubberized lines is supposed to be up, as the rubberized inserts are designed to prevent the sling from sliding on the shoulder.

I carry muzzle down, so it would be right for me. It’s much faster to get a rifle into action from the muzzle down position.

 

[nztimb]

I carry muzzle down, so it would be right for me. It’s much faster to get a rifle into action from the muzzle down position.

Me too and it sits more secure on the shoulder

 

[Delloro]

If you will indulge me for a moment, I’ll tell you why I chose the Enfield. Totally unrelated to choosing the best action for the build

When I was growing up as a kid in East Texas, all of the grown men in my family hunted deer with shotguns and buckshot. Without exception. Granddaddy, 3 uncles, Dad, cousins, you name it. There was only one rifle available to everyone, and it was an old sporterized Eddystone In 30-06. Two stage trigger. K4 Weaver Ejector didn’t work and you had to flip empties out with your finger. It was simply known as “The Rifle”. If granddaddy suggested that one of the men sit on the “Long Piece” stand that morning, he might say “You be sure and take the rifle”. Funny, looking back, my uncles would take “The Rifle” and their shotgun, in case the deer walked out in shotgun range. That said, I’ll never forget their stories about shooting deer “clear to the other end of the Long Piece”. Legendary. Looking at it now, about 150 yards. As I grew older and became the only grandson that hunted, it fell on me to keep the rifle sighted in and in good working order.

It still sits proudly in my gun case, and looking at it and that old ugly safety takes me back to a happy place.

Would love to see a pic of that rifle.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

Nice rifle, in a caliber that I love.

 

[Martin77]

If you will indulge me for a moment, I’ll tell you why I chose the Enfield. Totally unrelated to choosing the best action for the build

When I was growing up as a kid in East Texas, all of the grown men in my family hunted deer with shotguns and buckshot. Without exception. Granddaddy, 3 uncles, Dad, cousins, you name it. There was only one rifle available to everyone, and it was an old sporterized Eddystone In 30-06. Two stage trigger. K4 Weaver Ejector didn’t work and you had to flip empties out with your finger. It was simply known as “The Rifle”. If granddaddy suggested that one of the men sit on the “Long Piece” stand that morning, he might say “You be sure and take the rifle”. Funny, looking back, my uncles would take “The Rifle” and their shotgun, in case the deer walked out in shotgun range. That said, I’ll never forget their stories about shooting deer “clear to the other end of the Long Piece”. Legendary. Looking at it now, about 150 yards. As I grew older and became the only grandson that hunted, it fell on me to keep the rifle sighted in and in good working order.

It still sits proudly in my gun case, and looking at it and that old ugly safety takes me back to a happy place.

Great story!

 

[425SCHADE]

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M17 in 404 Jeffery that I’m a little sweet on

Very nice

 

[geoff rath]

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Oh, that's really classy; you've been blessed.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

If you will indulge me for a moment, I’ll tell you why I chose the Enfield. Totally unrelated to choosing the best action for the build

When I was growing up as a kid in East Texas, all of the grown men in my family hunted deer with shotguns and buckshot. Without exception. Granddaddy, 3 uncles, Dad, cousins, you name it. There was only one rifle available to everyone, and it was an old sporterized Eddystone In 30-06. Two stage trigger. K4 Weaver Ejector didn’t work and you had to flip empties out with your finger. It was simply known as “The Rifle”. If granddaddy suggested that one of the men sit on the “Long Piece” stand that morning, he might say “You be sure and take the rifle”. Funny, looking back, my uncles would take “The Rifle” and their shotgun, in case the deer walked out in shotgun range. That said, I’ll never forget their stories about shooting deer “clear to the other end of the Long Piece”. Legendary. Looking at it now, about 150 yards. As I grew older and became the only grandson that hunted, it fell on me to keep the rifle sighted in and in good working order.

It still sits proudly in my gun case, and looking at it and that old ugly safety takes me back to a happy place.

@Flipper Dude
The ejector is a 5 minute fix with a new coil spring from an old pen.

Two Enfields M17 paper stock 35 Whelen AI. The other is a P14 in 25 cal. Both have had the coin spring treatment.
Bob

 

[Flipper Dude]

@Flipper Dude
The ejector is a 5 minute fix with a new coil spring from an old pen.
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Two Enfields M17 paper stock 35 Whelen AI. The other is a P14 in 25 cal. Both have had the coin spring treatment.
Bob

I did fix the ejector years ago once Grandaddy passed and the rifle came home with me. Replaced the old recoil pad that was permanently mashed from standing in a closet corner. The finish nails through the wrist of the stock are still there though. Didn’t want to change the appearance too much.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

Collector’s in Houston had (has???) a ‘14 in .500 Jeff that is gorgeous!

I tried to add it to my wedding registry with even less success than you’d imagine. Maybe I could get it an apartment and visit it after work or on weekends…

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

Collector’s in Houston had (has???) a ‘14 in .500 Jeff that is gorgeous!

I tried to add it to my wedding registry with even less success than you’d imagine. Maybe I could get it an apartment and visit it after work or on weekends…

Wow still there!

It’s a Remington 30, not a “true” P14.

Remington 30 Express Custom 500 Schuler/Jeffery caliber rifle for sale.

Remington 30 Express Custom 500 Schuler/Jeffery caliber rifle. Top quality big bore rifle built by Jeffery & Son. Barrel is marked “ W. Jeffery & Son, Plymouth and Palos Verdes”. Floor plate and trigger guard are scroll engraved, and the floor plate has a cape buffalo engraved on it with gold...

www.collectorsfirearms.com

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Wow still there!

It’s a Remington 30, not a “true” P14.

Remington 30 Express Custom 500 Schuler/Jeffery caliber rifle for sale.

Remington 30 Express Custom 500 Schuler/Jeffery caliber rifle. Top quality big bore rifle built by Jeffery & Son. Barrel is marked “ W. Jeffery & Son, Plymouth and Palos Verdes”. Floor plate and trigger guard are scroll engraved, and the floor plate has a cape buffalo engraved on it with gold...

www.collectorsfirearms.com

@Lone Star Bluegrass
All the M17 is is a P14 with a different bolt face, barrel and mag follower.
The Remington Model 30 and 30s both started life as M17s. They made for a nice rifle. They are as solid as a brick out house.

 

[Lee in Texas]

In the Post-War era, three English gun making companies used Pattern 14 Enfield actions on their magazine rifles:
-Holland & Holland (until 1957)
- W.J. Jeffery (until 1955)
- Cogswell & Harrison (until 1952)



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I currently don’t have the W.J. Jeffery 1955 catalog near me, but they built these rifles in three calibers:
- .275 Rigby
- .30-06 Springfield
- .404 Jeffery

How did this photo get in here? I own this rifle. It’s a Remington Model 30 Express in .358 Norma Magnum. It was built by Mark Chanlynn in the late 1970s, with one of his barrels. Not trying to be confrontational or complaining, just curious.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

How did this photo get in here? I own this rifle. It’s a Remington Model 30 Express in .358 Norma Magnum. It was built by Mark Chanlynn in the late 1970s, with one of his barrels. Not trying to be confrontational or complaining, just curious.

I just googled Enfield action sporting rifles and found the photo for using here. It's a real small world.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Haha, great story that is, can't beat that sort of thing & explains why you left the only thing I don't really like on these & that's that Bloody safety !

@Sarg
The safety is simple easy to use, locks the bolt as well and is virtually silent. I like them.

Bob

 

[Lee in Texas]

I just googled Enfield action sporting rifles and found the photo for using here. It's a real small world.

It really is a small world. I saw this rifle for sale at **NOT**PERMITTED**. It sounded familiar, and how many 1917 Enfields in 358 Norma Magnum could there be? I googled it and found an ad about two years old for the same rifle. When I got it, I took off the scope mounts and saw that it’s a Remington Model 30 Express. Both ads had called it a 1917 Enfield.
I have a Mauser with a really distinct and beautiful crest. I clicked “buy it now”, then googled that model of Mauser. I found a thread featuring the exact same rifle I had just bought. A gunsmith who collects military rifles urged me to leave it as-is and not make it a sporter, but…it’s going to be a sporter. It wants to leave behind its old life of hunting people.

 

[Clodo Ferreira]

Hi Wildcater,

Like very much your rifle! Mostly because its dog leg bolt handle that put the bolt head closer to the hand, and the cock-on-closing bolt operation!
To me, more so in a big bore dangerous game rifle, the cock on closing is much better than the cock on opening. I see this as an advantage if the bolt is operated "on the shoulder". I like to practice this with all my rifles, starting with the .22 LR! To open the bolt this way, fast and quickly, can be problematic with only a little resistence by a case slightly expanded, added to the force needed to compress the firing pin spring.
Of course, the bolt and action contacts for the primary extraction can be honed properly to decrease that resistance, but the cock on closing is, in my view, better.
When I put a Dayton-Traister bolt nut, spring and trigger in my original sporting DWM M93 7mm Mauser, I did not convert the bolt to cock on opening. Instead, I cut the longer leg of the D-T nut to operate as the original M93 cock on closing. The main thing of the D-T nut, tho decrease the firing pin travel, so the stricking time, is maintainde. Love it!

Best!

CF