Help with identifying a Mauser action

[Shawn.54]

That is a great help I will check it Monday if it falls in those specs I could probably assume it is of better quality.

 

[Shawn.54]

I somehow missed this stamp on receiver just behind recoil lug it seems to read:
19
33
And is hand stamped
This may be a good clue.
Shawn

 

[ROCKET]

That is a great help I will check it Monday if it falls in those specs I could probably assume it is of better quality.

I gonna be waiting for the hardness test.....I would like to know how it goes........

 

[Shawn.54]

Ok with a little more looking I found on bottom of receiver just in front of back screw in tiny print Spain so it must have been a Spanish Model? Are they sound actions?

 

[ROCKET]

Ok with a little more looking I found on bottom of receiver just in front of back screw in tiny print Spain so it must have been a Spanish Model? Are they sound actions?

Well.....so We could be in front of a Spanish Mauser 1893......with this data We can be more presice....

That action could belong to this rifle......

The bolt should be the same as the bolt in the left side of the picture.....the other is a 98 action bolt.....

This action was the previus step to the final and great 98 action.
Spain was using this rifles in the Cuba War against the United States soldiers with great succes.
This was the motive for United States have changed the Krag Jorgensen rifles for the "almost" Sprinfield 1903.......

Some rifles were constructed in Herstal by Ludwin Loewe to cover a large order from Spain and after that they have moved the machinnery to keep producing it in Oviedo Arsenals Spain.

The armies of Chile and Brazil were endowed with these rifles also in those days.......

I hope this time We are right..........

 

[ROCKET]

And as I said in previus post I am almost sure that the bolt handle was modified and the safety flap was changed for a 3/4 turn flap.

 

[Shawn.54]

This is not a match to bolt on the left it is a 98 for sure matches bolt in other 98 in family. It is definitely a odd ball.

 

[ROCKET]

Well.....the papers have been burnt.......what about the action body....??.....is it the same as the photos I have uploaded.....??.......yes, the bolt seems to be a 98 family.....with the third blocker back.....!!!

 

[Shawn.54]

My bolt fits a war era k98 here is some pictures of striped receiver.
Without thumb cutout. This is my luck if there is a oddball to be had I get it.
OD of ring is 1.4oo

 

[Shawn.54]

I don't believe that the bolt is original the magazine is not original either but matches well with feed ramp.
The magazine is 3.350 inside.
Shawn

 

[ROCKET]

Ok.....the first photo you have posted now, shows that clearly it is different that the 1893 I have posted.....so looking the face of the bolt and taking note that in the Spanish Civil War 1936/39 there were lots of 98 Mauser in the Spanierd army, easily and finally could be a 98 Type action.......do the hardness test to see what happens......!!!!

Weird thing....is there any cut in the back os the action for ammunytion military clip.....??

 

[ZG47]

This action seems to the early Santa Barbara investment-cast action, i.e. without the post-48 FN style cut on the left side of the receiver ring collar. Parker Hale used the later version, with the cost-saving left-side cut, as does Voere, for it's '98 based rifles.
There is a certain degree of snobbishness about these actions but one of the damaged rifles we showed to our firearm license candidates was a Parker Hale, built on the Santa Barbara action. The rifle was chambered in .25-06 and lent by the owner, to a friend who purchased some .308 Winchester ammo to use in it. The bolt was a bit stiff after the first shot but the idiot fired another round, at which point a small piece of metal detached from the two o'clock point of the receiver, the extractor bent our partially, some of the timber around the magazine well splintered and the barrel flew downrange BUT the breech-bolt stayed in position. I would not expect anything better from the finest 1930s Oberndorf sporter,

In contrast, I have seen an investment cast, stainless steel Tikka which was chambered in .25-06 and 'grenaded' with a single round of .308 Winchester being fired in it.

P.S. The Parker Hale barrel was installed in another action for the owner.

 

[ROCKET]

It doestn´t matter about numbers if all belongs to a 98 family....!!!!

 

[Shawn.54]

There is no cut out for stripper clip and no indication of it being welded looks to have blueing still intact on surface. It almost has to be commercial action.
Shawn

 

[ROCKET]

Will be this a enigma with out solution.....???

 

[Shawn.54]

Could be now it's up to Rockwell

 

[Shawn.54]

ZG47 did not see your post slip in there just now as I was reading all the posts and after surfing the net a little more came across the Santa Barbara which were made mid 30s would 33 be mid 30s did not hear of investment casting until you mentioned it though. Was hoping to make a 416 Ruger on this maybe not now.
Shawn

 

[CAustin]

@Shawn.54 why not the 416? Do you think the metal is not hard enough to withstand the pressure?

 

[Shawn.54]

Well depends where you read about Santa Barbara actions some say that investment castings were not good some say they were as good as any after I check hardness I'll make a decision.
I was looking to try a 404 Jeff but I think I'll do the Ruger less chance of messing it up.
Lot of cutting and filling to make the Jeff work.

 

[CAustin]

@Shawn.54 I hope you are able to do what you want in terms of caliber! Who will you have make the stick for you when you get to that point?