Help with identifying a Mauser action

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  1. Shawn.54

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    I picked this action up years ago and I'm a little unsure exactly what I have. The only marks or numbers on it is y1477 on left side of ring.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Shawn

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    @Shawn.54 The bolt handle is typical of those used on Zastava sporting actions supplied to Interarms Ltd, of Virginia and marketed as the Mk X. These rifles have the post-war FN-style slot on the left of the receiver ring although I have read that the earliest exports of the Zastava commercial action had the full collar arrangement.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    Inside the receiver ring the barrel threads run into a shoulder. The shoulder will be either a mostly complete rings with one cut for the extractor; or there will be another cut that corresponds to the leftside rail. Which type of shoulder will add some evidence as to when and where it was made.
     
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    I will check the ring tonight when I get home from work and get back to you.
    Shawn
     
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    I didn't think it was a military action because it lacked the cut out for stripper clip the bolt may be pasts put together from a pile the fellow I got it from was cleaning out his shop that belonged to his grandfather who made custom rifles and also did work for Springfield Sporters a company in Pa that imported military surplus.
    Also got a Mexican Mauser action made by FN which I barreled in 7x57.
    Shawn
     
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    This is also consistent with bolt handles on "P" serial numbered (exported) BRNO VZ24's.

    "P" VZ24's have the stripper clip cut out and hump though, so I dont think thats what you have..

    My best guess is ZG47 is correct and its an MkX of some sort...
     
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    When I get home I have some stuff to check and will post some pics. If it is a ZG47 is it a decent action to build on.
    Proper heat treat and so forth.
    Shawn
     
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    @Shawn.54 He was referring to my post, not my favourite sporting Mauser action. It seems most likely that your action was built by Zastava, in its manufactury in Kragujevac, Serbia.
     
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    Ok home now took pic of ring and it seems to be a c ring

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    Any one familiar with Santa Barbara actions as I was looking on line came across the description of one may be a close match.
    Shawn
     
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    Santa Barbara commercial actions have the partial FN-style collar.
     
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    Is that the H ring on the Spanish Mauser then?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Back to the beginning. Can anyone tell me what Rockwell C hardness on receiver should be I can check that at work.
    Shawn
     
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    The whole set seems to belong to a type 98 Mauser Action.....we have thousands of sport rifles maded with those actions coming from the Army surplus, here in Argentina.

    Strange it has no marks or stamps beyond those numbers, but it really looks as Mauser 98 Action, the bolt, receiver, screws, everything.

    The handle of the bolt seems to have been worked and the safety flap seems to have been changed for a sporter one to have the chance to be used with a scope in the rifle, in the case it has been a military action.

    In the case of having been manufactured by DWM (Deutsche Waffen Munitionfabriken Berlin) suppost to have the DWM stamp in the left side..........but many country´s where manufacturing this Actions under Mauser licences......soo not easy to know.

    One of the best bolt actions ever made by the way.
     
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    Let me take a stab at a different way of stating the question as I think I know what @Shawn.54 is trying to get it.

    There are junk Mauser like actions out in the wild and then there are good ones. Turkish Mausers don't have a sterling reputation as one example. Can the experts establish that this is a quality action suitable for a rifle build up to 375 or 404 based upon appearances?

    I figure if you guys can determine what the list of "could be" actions and the "can't be" list, Shawn may know if he has a good donor here or not.

    Was that your primary goal?
     
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    Yes I would like to know if it safe action or it's a good paper weight.
     
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    With Argentine Mauser model 1909 action you can do a .458 loot, to say the least or any magnum caliber......It has been tested trhough many decades......even you have lots of these 1909 model mauser actions in the States......they have lots of stamps in the action......as I said......I am not sure of nothing about Shawn action.
     
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    Since this action only has a serial number and no other markings is there a way to check it. I do have access to Rockwell testing machine.
     
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    Published values by Rifle Magazine year 1988.......Rockwell C scale.....

    Mauser Action 98 type made by DWM.................27 Rockwell C

    Brno action 98 type VZ-24 ..................23 Rockwell C

    Brno 08/34 ...................24 Rockwell C


    I hope this can help you.
     

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