Critique this youth load

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Roothawk, the loads you are considering will most likely perform well but, here is another route to consider.
I like to use my Mannlicher-Schoenauer in .30'06 for our whitetail deer which go 130 to 150 pounds. The '06 is a bit excessive on my property where a long shot is 75 yards and most shots run 30-50 yards. I developed a load using a 170 grain .30-30 bullet and 42 grains of IMR-3031. Velocity is 2349 fps and recoil calculates to 12.8 foot pounds. Probably could use a 150 or the 160 FTx for a little flatter trajectory and less recoil.

@7x57Joe
For shots at that range I would be tempted to use 190gn subX projectiles loaded to 1,500fps 2" high sighted in at 50 and would be spot on at 100. These bullets are supposed to expand down to 600fps.
Recoil would be around 6-7# if not less
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Just teasing Bob.
Depending on the ranges being hunted, I would load 30-30 bullets at 2200.
30-30 just work within 150 yards.

@Wyatt Smith
I would love a REM 788 in 30-30 and load it with point bullets.
I remember reading Layne Simpson betting some one his 30-30 should shoot less than one inch groups. The man accepted the offer and Layne proceeded to shoot a half inch five shot group with his 788.
Bob

 

[rookhawk]

Apologies if my comment last night was harsh. I was operating on one hour of sleep in 50 hours.

Everything arrived and I’m giving it a try with my son.

 

[Tex .416]

Apologies if my comment last night was harsh. I was operating on one hour of sleep in 50 hours.

Everything arrived and I’m giving it a try with my son.

No apology needed needed from my view.

A photo of the rifle would be great to see.

He will be fine with a .30-06 with the 130’s loaded mild. The lower level loads are very mild recoil wise. This combination is duplicating a .270, which is well within almost anyone’s tolerance.

I hope to hit the range Sunday and test loads with Varget and 3031 for you. I do not have any RL15 to test. Figure you have that on hand to test. Might also try some H4895 and H335 as it is sitting on the shelf.

Is this a Christmas gift for him or does he already have it and what does it weigh? He is a lucky young man.

Bob 35 Whelen,

as to why a 130 TTSX, see post #5, my first post. The .308 130 TTSX is a bullet that has really proven itself to be quite effective on deer and pigs. It is duplicating the time tested basic .270 Win load, but with a bit extra surface area. Out of hundreds of deer and pigs, only three have been recovered. So about 1% are recovered, 99% exit. Our mature bucks prior to rut average around 225# on the scales with a few bumping 250# or more. We need a bullet that penetrates well. Tracking in the thorn brush is tough and not fun.

Here is a clip where a nephew shot a large buck that was quartering at us. The entry was on the near side point of the shoulder. The 130 TTSX was recovered from under the skin of the off side rear leg.

Bottom line - I too worked up this bullet for young hunters, but was so impressed with the results that it is my first choice for deer and pigs in the South Texas brush country. It is easy on the shoulder and very effective.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

No apology needed needed from my view.

A photo of the rifle would be great to see.

He will be fine with a .30-06 with the 130’s loaded mild. The lower level loads are very mild recoil wise. This combination is duplicating a .270, which is well within almost anyone’s tolerance.

I hope to hit the range Sunday and test loads with Varget and 3031 for you. I do not have any RL15 to test. Figure you have that on hand to test. Might also try some H4895 and H335 as it is sitting on the shelf.

Is this a Christmas gift for him or does he already have it and what does it weigh? He is a lucky young man.

Bob 35 Whelen,

as to why a 130 TTSX, see post #5, my first post. The .308 130 TTSX is a bullet that has really proven itself to be quite effective on deer and pigs. It is duplicating the time tested basic .270 Win load, but with a bit extra surface area. Out of hundreds of deer and pigs, only three have been recovered. So about 1% are recovered, 99% exit. Our mature bucks prior to rut average around 225# on the scales with a few bumping 250# or more. We need a bullet that penetrates well. Tracking in the thorn brush is tough and not fun.

Here is a clip where a nephew shot a large buck that was quartering at us. The entry was on the near side point of the shoulder. The 130 TTSX was recovered from under the skin of the off side rear leg.

Bottom line - I too worked up this bullet for young hunters, but was so impressed with the results that it is my first choice for deer and pigs in the South Texas brush country. It is easy on the shoulder and very effective.

@Tex.416
H4895 gave excellent results in my mates 30-06 with everything from 110-150gns.
Loaded at 60% of max load recoil was negligible and his son could use it without issue
The reason I asked about the TTSX is the are very expensive in Australia (over $120/50) so I have stuck mainly with the 150gn SST in the sons 08. Drops everything he shoots and $65/100.
They give quick kills on deer, goats and pigs but completely destroys rabbits
The TTSX is a great bullet but to expensive for shooting our thin skinned game.in my 25 the 100gn TTSX at over 3,600fps kill well. My longest shot to date on a fallow deer was a lasered 400 yds. Backline hold and it was like someone knocked the legs out from under it.
Bob

 

[Tex .416]

@Tex.416
H4895 gave excellent results in my mates 30-06 with everything from 110-150gns.
Loaded at 60% of max load recoil was negligible and his son could use it without issue
The reason I asked about the TTSX is the are very expensive in Australia (over $120/50) so I have stuck mainly with the 150gn SST in the sons 08. Drops everything he shoots and $65/100.
They give quick kills on deer, goats and pigs but completely destroys rabbits
The TTSX is a great bullet but to expensive for shooting our thin skinned game.in my 25 the 100gn TTSX at over 3,600fps kill well. My longest shot to date on a fallow deer was a lasered 400 yds. Backline hold and it was like someone knocked the legs out from under it.
Bob

That pricing is crazy Bob. The .308 130 TTSX is $42/box of 50 here, exactly the same price as the .308 150 SST. Sounds like more competition is needed among the retailers there. I have gone to the TTSX or LRX in all of my hunting loads. One minor point, my comments are specific to the TTSX, not the TSX. The TSX was inconsistent in performance. The TTSX has been quite consistent in terminal performance.

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