CBL Banned??

[375Fox]

So you support put and take hunting as long as the price is right on a non emotional animal?

The biggest issue is how we are defining put and take. Every animal released on a game farm is to be hunted, what we are discussing is everyone's ethical line on the size of the area and how long it has been released. That is going to vary from person to person, just like baiting, just like bow hunting, just like long range hunting, just like hound hunting.

Willing to accept is a better phrase. If a practice doesn’t cast hunters in a bad light with non-hunters I really don’t have an issue. If CBL shooting would stop being called hunting I really wouldn’t care either. Call it farmed lion harvesting to distance it from hunting. When a non-hunter looks at what the practice is, I see no faster way to create an anti-hunter. I find it very objectionable. The farmed lion industry brought this on themselves telling marketing lies from the start. PHASA removing the word ethical to replace with legal is a dangerous slope. Professional organizations are there to hold an ethical standard apparently except in this case.

Every animal is not released into a game farm just to be hunted. Plains game and buffalo are released to build mostly self sustaining herds. The old and excess are hunted, but they primarily live on fenced properties the same as they would outside the fence. CBL lions are released to be shot a very short time after. They will never breed or contribute to a lion population on that property. It was put there just to be taken during that hunting season. The fences were used do to hold it in until the hunter arrived.

 

[375Fox]

Also, just so everyone knows @375Fox is a great guy, and a hell of a hunter.

I appreciate this comment. I would prefer to never see a CBL debate come up, see a CBL marketing advertisement, see a CBL report. There are a number of people like yourself, I’d prefer not to be on the opposite side of this argument with, but I find it a very reprehensible practice. This is a better forum when this topic doesnt come up. If the practice isn’t banned, it does appear to be going quiet. I’m ok with that compromise if it exists, but done very quietly.

 

[LivingTheDream]

I appreciate this comment. I would prefer to never see a CBL debate come up, see a CBL marketing advertisement, see a CBL report. There are a number of people like yourself, I’d prefer not to be on the opposite side of this argument with, but I find it a very reprehensible practice. This is a better forum when this topic doesnt come up. If the practice isn’t banned, it does appear to be going quiet. I’m ok with that compromise if it exists, but done very quietly.

I agree and even though you and I are on complete opposite sides of this issue we both have a love for hunting and a lot more in common than not. I think sometimes that gets lost in the conversation.

 

[Rare Breed]

Here is my point of view. As a forum why don’t we just let a person share his lion hunting experience, as long as it is legal don’t spend time asking if it was a wild or CBL hunt…just celebrate with the person…that has always been and continues to be my POV.

 

[Rare Breed]

It’s just there are some people on our forum that forget my point above and then it suddenly becomes a CBL bashing post. Just let each person make their own decision and enjoy the hunt report

 

[dchum]

Here is my point of view. As a forum why don’t we just let a person share his lion hunting experience, as long as it is legal don’t spend time asking if it was a wild or CBL hunt…just celebrate with the person…that has always been and continues to be my POV.

No need to ask… it’s obvious to all who have any knowledge of Africa hunting.

 

[HankBuck]

Here is my point of view. As a forum why don’t we just let a person share his lion hunting experience, as long as it is legal don’t spend time asking if it was a wild or CBL hunt…just celebrate with the person…that has always been and continues to be my POV.

@Rare Breed - I just can’t do that - When a person shares their Lion Hunt Story to NOT ask “was it Wild or CBL?” How do you Not want to know? How is that Not a relevent question to provide context?
If your Single buddy goes out Friday Night and Sunday tells you “I picked up a gorgeous blond at a bar and had great sex with her all weekend”….but leaves out She-was-a-Hooker, wouldn’t that be relevant?

 

[Rare Breed]

Too funny!!!!!

 

[revturbo9967]

It’s just there are some people on our forum that forget my point above and then it suddenly becomes a CBL bashing post. Just let each person make their own decision and enjoy the hunt report

The issue is that you're asking people to suspend their opinions on one of the most debated subjects in hunting simply because someone posted pictures. By that logic, nobody should discuss game farming, put and take operations, or any other controversial hunting topic. Just look at the photos and clap.

That's not how this works. A public hunting forum exists for discussion, not mandatory applause.

People absolutely have the right to make their own decisions. But everyone else has the right to discuss those decisions, especially when they're voluntarily posted on a public hunting forum. A hunt report isn't immune from criticism simply because the hunter enjoyed it.

If someone posts a CBL hunt, don't be surprised when people discuss CBL hunting. The hunt and the discussion are directly related. You can't separate the two just because the conversation becomes uncomfortable.

What you're really asking for isn't that everyone make their own decision. You're asking everyone who disagrees to keep their opinion to themselves.