I was able to shoot a deer, about a 110 lb doe, with the 150 grain Norma Whitetails and they worked great. It was a 95 yard shot, quartering to me slightly. Bullet entered the point of the shoulder and exited about half way back the opposite side rib cage. Deer went 30 yards and was done. Absolutely devastating damage internally. I wouldn’t take this ammo to shoot elk or PG in Africa but for my local whitetail population they look to be just about perfect and for the price I can do lots of practice with this ammo as well. For lighter skinned, deer sized animals, I think I have found my factory load. Appreciate the input fellow AHers.