Anyone had a ph tell you to shoot the wrong animal or wrong shot?

[Happy Myles]

If i have told this before, forgive me I am 87 years old.
Decades ago I went Marco Polo ship hunting. Traveling in I was accompanied by two famous hunters we were sent to three different camps. I was told they both quickly collected nice rams and left after a few days. Whereas I hunted hard for three weeks from a spike camp located at 15,000 feet. I had hunted in tough terrain but this was the toughest and still is the toughest and I was in great shape but completely worn to a frazzle. Finally, at dawn we spotted eight rams high above us working their way to a bedding ground. The lead ram was huffing and puffing with his tongue out. We were a long way below, I knew this was going to be tough. Finally after struggling upwards for hours through snow we spotted them above us bedded down far across a canyon. The guide said to shoot the one bedded down on the far left . My shot was 320 yards using my day pack on a rock for a rest. At the shot he lunged up and ran uphill to the right chasing the other rams. The men screamed shoot again but he stopped with his head down then collapsed. We slipped and slid down and then upwards. Two of the men whispered at each other and in broken English began repeating i had shot the wrong ram. I was discouraged working upward after all the effort to make such a mistake was almost more than I could bear. Then as we got closer I noticed the big right horn sticking out of the snow. I thought my how big was the good ram? When we reached the animal they began to laugh. They were teasing me. The monster was over 60 inches with one horn broomed.
A trophy of a lifetime

 

[WAC62]

Yes, picked out a Blue Wildebeest bull in a small herd. They moved left to right through some cover. Animal stopped with an excellent broadside shot at 175 yards. PH and tracker both agreed it was the bull. Single shot on target, found one speck of blood then a mature cow piled up under a bush. Took out lower half of heart and bled out internally. No issues marked as my management animal included in the package. Had it the next evening for dinner.

 

[dchum]

“I’m upfront with my PH’s and tell them I can’t hear a damn thing and to say “shoot” or “no” as loud as they can without spooking game!”

I hope she (Latifa) is still working for Oxis , being hard of hearing is a challenge sometimes to understand people who don’t speak English very clearly trying to explain things in a hurryView attachment 718842, View attachment 718837View attachment 718838View attachment 718839View attachment 718840View attachment 718841

The company your friend Chad hunted with in 2023 is actually "Oxus holdings", named for the Oxus river in Tajik. Not Oxis.
Close enough though!
Im sure he had an awesome hunt with them and his pedestal mount looks really well done in my opinion. I hope to get one soon.

Your friend chads picture looks great!

Does your friend Chad know you post all of his pictures on here? I am genuinely asking if he knows, not taking a jab or playing gotcha anymore. As that is all very clear now.

I also see you just added Morocco to your "countries hunted" list as well as Zimbabwe! Vey nice

not many people get to hunt morocco so that would be a great report! aoudad I assume? not much else to hunt in morocco currently.

 

[pilar]

The company your friend Chad hunted with in 2023 is actually "Oxus holdings", named for the Oxus river in Tajik. Not Oxis.
Close enough though!
Im sure he had an awesome hunt with them and his pedestal mount looks really well done in my opinion. I hope to get one soon. View attachment 718844
Your friend chads picture looks great!

Does your friend Chad know you post all of his pictures on here? I am genuinely asking if he knows, not taking a jab or playing gotcha anymore. As that is all very clear now.

I also see you just added Morocco to your "countries hunted" list as well as Zimbabwe! Vey nice

not many people get to hunt morocco so that would be a great report! aoudad I assume? not much else to hunt in morocco currently.

Look mama’s boy , I hunted birds in Morocco with friends from Spain when I went back there to visit them ,
Let me know when you go hunting on your own dime ( not your family $ )
Chad and I have been hunting with each other for forty + years and worked many years scrambling to save some money to get to enjoy ourselves
I’m really baffled by this obsessed compulsive behavior! One look at your profile after you POed me enough to look at your profile just proves my statement that you that you’re just one sponging off the family , nice costume sister

 

[Kharn]

Last PH told me to shoot the wrong blue wildebeest. I asked him twice "The one on the left?" He said yes and I pulled the trigger. "Good shot!" We walked up to it and he says "You shot the wrong one!" Uhh ... what happened to good shot? "It's a young bull." Yeah, as in yearling young! PH goes to get the truck and I tell the tracker to get busy gutting. Won't be any photo op. He rolls it over and there's tits. Fortunately no milk in them. PH says he'll make it right with the property owner and lodge owner. Leaving the property we run into the owner. Long conversation in Afrikans and then in very broken English he asks me if I was happy with the hunt. I merely said "Okay." But I did not look very happy I'm sure. Time to pay up the day I left and PH blames me for shooting the wrong animal. He did not make it right with anyone. Not a good scene ensued ... briefly. Not that I haven't made mistakes but no one else ever pays for mine. I did agree to pay half the "fine" for shooting breeding stock just to put and end to it. I have since heard other bad stories about the guy.

The last evening hunt we were after kudu on another PH's farm. Saw 27 of them that day but no real good shooters. Rather than go back to the lodge empty handed my PH spotted a lone springbuck ram I should cull. It was a tricky stalk before we were finally in range for a long shot. I cranked my scope up to 9x. "Nah, that's no shit-ram!" "Yes it is. Shoot." I handed him my rifle. "You can shoot it if you want. I'm not going to." Talking to the owner/PH that night after dinner he confirmed the ram who held that turf was breeding stock not a cull.

Name & Shame
Name & Shame
Death of Quality is the acceptance of inferiority.

 

[thriller]

I won’t say who or where (it was a hunt I was not on in a country I have not been to) but a guy I know was told to shoot and it turned out to be a female leopard. Apparently it was legal but not importable. That was a mess and he never got his cat back.

 

[dchum]

Look mama’s boy , I hunted birds in Morocco with friends from Spain when I went back there to visit them ,
Let me know when you go hunting on your own dime ( not your family $ )
Chad and I have been hunting with each other for forty + years and worked many years scrambling to save some money to get to enjoy ourselves
I’m really baffled by this obsessed compulsive behavior! One look at your profile after you POed me enough to look at your profile just proves my statement that you that you’re just one sponging off the family , nice costume sister View attachment 718845

Funny you choose that picture! As it pertains to this thread. If you notice it’s a female warthog…. Oops on me - I shot the wrong animal. No blame on anyone but me.

I love that pic, that is my favorite hunting hat. A Gaucho baret from Argentina. Lots of luck in it for me.

You never did answer, does Chad know you sometimes pretend to be him on here?

@Quest#1 I find it weird you are ok with an open fraud on the site. Weird side to be on.

People like him bring the value and credibility of this fantastic website down but you found ME to be the problem.

 

[Justbryan]

I have never shot or been told to shoot the wrong animal. But I was on a hunt for a 35"- 38" Cape Buffalo on a quota. The other hunter on a second quota had a 40"+ bull on quota but he shot the wrong bull so I got to shoot a 40" plus bull. I was charged for the smaller bull.

 

[Moe324]

Yes. On my second trip to Africa I had bushbuck on the list. Had a landowner tell me and the ph to shoot two of them. One being a trophy and one not. It was in the dark with a spotlight. He admitted he told us to shoot the immature one without looking at it good. He told us to load both up. On the 2 hr drive back to lodge I asked pH about it and said no way we should have to pay for that first immature one. He said he would talk to lodge owner. Fast forward to bill day and 2 trophy bushbuck is on the bill. I said why is that on there and he said the landowner charged him for two. After arguing with him he said he would charge me his cost on the immature one at $800 and that I was to take that out of the in house pH tip because he wanted to teach him a lesson.

 

[Quest#1]

Did I personally do something to you @Quest#1 ?

How soon we forget…. Seems like you feel the need to constantly “call ppl out” even back a year or two ago. You were “ calling someone out” and i told you to leave the guy alone and you decided to “call” me out on my education and looks. Yeah that’s correct…. Remember? You are a bully that talks shit and then plays the victim. Typical spoon fed…. Most ppl that make their own way have some respect for others. Not entitled victims given everything.

@Quest#1 I find it weird you are ok with an open fraud on the site. Weird side to be on.

People like him bring the value and credibility of this fantastic website down but you found ME to be the problem.

I don’t care who lies or not. I have gained so much insight on hunting the world from a ton of hard working poor and extremely rich polite and respectful ppl on this site.

Again you are a bully. You definitely think you are better than others. If you are going to call out ppl in life take what is given back. You locked your AH profile and threatened you won’t be at AH events…. Promise?