45-90 German Double

[robert kuester]

Picked up German double. The cast I took is the same as a 45-90 but the rim is smaller in dia. and thicker? Any idea on what cartridge it is. Checked cartriges of the world and no luck.

 

[Sarg]

Sounds like a cool Double, congrats for obtaining it, I think I'm not alone in very much liking to see pic's of your new rifle .

If you show photos of the flats some one here maybe able to help to.

With it being a Euro double it could/will be in a unusual metric cartridge which will make it a little more difficult to suss out for you I think ?

Oh we need more info to, Black Powder Express BPE or Nitro Express NE, Hammer Under Lever or Hammerless Top Lever ?

 

[crs]

I saw a Sauer double in 45-90 a few years ago, but it sold before I got around to bidding.

Can you tell us the make of gun and pictures are a great help.

 

[TTundra]

Possibly some you looked at?

11,5x60R D 450 Express
11,5x63R D 450 Express
11,5x65R D 450 Express

 

[robert kuester]

I don't do pictures. The flats are marked 51/05. It's a hammer gun and has rebounding hammers,Jones under lever,resest peep sight,fully ingraved with a trap under the but for extra cartriges. I don't have messurments for those 11,5 shells? the name is HCG Stein. Hamburg. I fire formed cases from 45-90's and turned down the rim.

 

[Ike85123]

Picked up German double. The cast I took is the same as a 45-90 but the rim is smaller in dia. and thicker? Any idea on what cartridge it is. Checked cartriges of the world and no luck.

It might be one of those Quigley rifles, made special with a wildcat round ?

 

[crs]

Robert,
Here is a german DR in .405 WCF - Simson & Son Suhl :

And one from Italy - Beretta .45-70 with 26 inch barrels

Wider view in poor light:

Either of these rifles will take just about anything walking or crawling.

 

[robert kuester]

Possibly some you looked at?

11,5x60R D 450 Express
11,5x63R D 450 Express
11,5x65R D 450 Express

Do you have the specs for them?

 

[robert kuester]

What are the dimensions of the 11.15x65r collath?

 

[TTundra]

Do you have the specs for them?

No. You'll likely need to post in the reloading forums to track down any samples and/or cartridge drawings. There are threads specifically on the US "45-" variants to their European counterparts. There are quite a few options in that arena.