Thinking About Buying A Vintage Shotgun? Read This First

Where are you buying shells for your vintage shotguns? I have searched online for slower non-tox shot shells and can’t find any (20b). Plus most are a mix of steel shot and either tungsten or bismuth. I reload rifle and pistol, but am consolidating calibers to simplify that and don’t really want to add shot shell reloading.

RSTshells.com is the best source in the US for 2.5" non-toxic shells for vintage guns. They sell nice-shot and occasionally bismuth. It's not cheap at roughly $100 for 25 rounds, but how many ducks or turkeys are you going to kill? For everything else, I just use RST lead shot which is far more affordable.
 
RSTshells.com is the best source in the US for 2.5" non-toxic shells for vintage guns. They sell nice-shot and occasionally bismuth. It's not cheap at roughly $100 for 25 rounds, but how many ducks or turkeys are you going to kill? For everything else, I just use RST lead shot which is far more affordable.
They won’t ship into komifornia, obviously even to a licensed dealer. Bummer.
 
I have bought and imported a number of 'vintage' shotguns directly from the UK. I have a trusted UK dealer that inspects the gun prior to my commitment to buy. Most UK dealers will send the gun that you are interested in buying to a UK person/firm to inspect for you and the cost is nil to very little.

I have done the importation on my own in the past but now use a broker. When the gun arrives here I send to my 'smith, who is highly qualified and knows me well. He vets the gun again and makes recommendations and does other work that may to be done.

It is interesting to note that vintage doubles in the UK are decreasing in price - all but the very best collectable guns. The UK is now shooting (almost completely) non-toxic shot and the generation that originally owned and appreciated these old treasures have passed on and left their arms to their heirs... most of whom shoot O/U guns or don't shoot at all. I own a couple guns that are now worth LESS than I paid for them 10 or 15 years ago. I don't really care because I shoot and appreciate them.

I also think that high quality boxlock guns are a tremendous bargain right now. Especially ones made by lesser known makers. But you must, as Rookhawk points out, take the trouble to educate your self prior to buying. I have a nice 20b Robertson (spec'd, finished and sold by Boss of London) that I bought for less than $2500. Another is a lightweight 16b from Jos. Harkom of Scotland that cost me $2200... Great bird guns for an AZ quail hunter.
Robertson actually owned Boss . He was a maker of components for many of the London big names . Even with Robertson the boxlock probably came from Webley & Scott in Birmingham . And Harmon built beautiful guns . Two wonderful lesser known but high quality guns .
 
Thank you for the detailed advice!

I have "hired" @rookhawk to assist me with the purchase of guns and it has been well worth the money. While he is not advertising this service, I imagine he would be willing to consider requests for assistance, but please be considerate and don't ask or expect him to do it for free (even if he initially offers). His wealth of information and capability has come a cost of time, reference material and tools and it is only fair to plan to pay a fair fee for such a valuable services.
When buying at auctions in the UK I have used Diggory Hadoke . He is very close to the teams at Rigby and Westley Richards . He is very knowledgeable . A good resource .
 
When buying at auctions in the UK I have used Diggory Hadoke . He is very close to the teams at Rigby and Westley Richards . He is very knowledgeable . A good resource .

DIGs is fantastic for a man on the ground to lay hands on guns before you bid. Worth every penny if the gun is going to be a high dollar purchase.
 
When buying at auctions in the UK I have used Diggory Hadoke . He is very close to the teams at Rigby and Westley Richards . He is very knowledgeable . A good resource .
I can attest that Diggory is a great resource! We are lucky have him as part of our team!
 
Thanks for this PSA!

While I've not owned a shotgun that vintage, I did have for a while a mint 4-digit Winchester Model 1911 that I picked up for $350. I thought I'd found a real rarity, but learned later that I had an undesirable "Widowmaker" due to its lack of bolt handle. Took a long time to trade it off!

Have avoided old shotguns ever since; not my specialty.
 
Used my 1883 built Westley Richards Damascus 12 Bore with B&P 2-1/2” Upland Classic Loads this past weekend to shoot a limit of doves.

Swings and points much better than many modern shotguns. Might get rid of my early production Browning Superposed because I shoot this gun so much better

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The ulgy green velvet color is somehow the most beautiful color paired with a fine WR! That's a stunning shotgun with gorgeous plum brown damascus. Congrats!
 
The ulgy green velvet color is somehow the most beautiful color paired with a fine WR! That's a stunning shotgun with gorgeous plum brown damascus. Congrats!
Thank you, I've had her for several years now and always make time to hunt/shoot her a few times a year.
 

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