The .458 I thought I'd never own...

Hey everyone,

I thought I'd post a pic or 2 of my latest .458 Win Mag, and what's special is I thought I'd never own it.

It was one of several rifles owned by the late Bob Penfold, who ran Hunt Australia, one of Australia's premier hunting safari companies.
Bob was known as "the grandfather of the big game hunting industry of the South Pacific".

He had a rifle built known as 'Black Max', a M98 Mauser with a 22" Magnaported barrel chambered in .458WM. This rifle got it's name as it was all painted black.
Then he had 3 more built, based on his original rifle.
Then he had several more built to the same specifications that were used around the various camps by the guides and visiting clients.

Bob retired (and has since passed away, RIP), and Hunt Australia was then run by a fellow named Matt, who took over. Unfortunately, Matt passed away suddenly at a young age, and Hunt Australia then ceased to exist.
When Hunt Australia ended, the equipment – including the rifles – was sold off. I heard about this and immediately put my hand up for one of Bob's .458's.
While I was waiting, a brand new Zastava .458 became available, so I bought that instead. That rifle served me well, but I always regretted not getting one of Bob Penfold's rifles...

A few weeks ago on an Australian hunting forum, randomly someone said they owned one. I immediately messaged him and asked if he was interested in selling, but he wasn't. But he did tell me someone else who owned one, and maybe they would?
I contacted this person, and they were 50/50 on whether they'd sell or not.
I absolutely hounded this person (who I kind of knew) mercilessly until they eventually gave in and sold! And as a bonus, he only live a few hours from me so no postage... I just drove down and picked it up in person!

So now, I finally own one of Bob Penfold's rifles...

I need to mention that the reason I wanted one of these rifles so bad was because I'd read about 'Black Max' and these other rifles in magazines growing up.
I'd read about them and thought to myself how cool it would be to own one... and now I do.

When I picked it up, it looked like this...

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It now looks like this... everything done by me.

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When I first got it, it shot like this...

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After a scrubbing with Sweets and a bronze brush – and using my usual .458 load consisting of the 480gn Woodleigh RNSP and 2206H, it now shoots 3 shots like this at 50m...

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I got good speed with this load too. In the stubby 21" Magnaported barrel I got this...

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The scope that came with this rifle – the very same one that has lived on this rifle from the start – isn't the same one in the pic. The original scope is a Leupold 1.5-5x and the scope in the pic is a Leupold M8 4 power.
The reason for this is the original scope is being refurbished by Leupold. Life on a .458 for a scope – regardless of brand – is a hard one, and I just wanted it freshened up before I started seriously hunting with it. The 4 power is only a temporary scope until the original is back.

So this .458 is number 6... and this one is a keeper. I let one of these rifles slip through my fingers years ago, and I'm not making that mistake again.
Rather miraculously, I managed to locate 2 of them, and even more miraculously, I actually managed to buy one.

My plan was to load the 450 gn Atomic-29 copper hollow-point in it. I was going to aim for a velocity of around 2200 fps. That I thought to myself would be a potent load. But as the 480gn Woodleighs seem to shoot well in it, I'll use them for the moment. 2123fps with a 480gn projectile sounds pretty potent too...

So there it is, .458 number 6.
And even though the .458WM is my favourite cartridge, I never thought I'd get another one when I sold my last Zastava... but then again, I never thought I'd track one of Bob Penfold's rifles down...

I just need to blood it now, so keep your eyes peeled...

Russ

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Hi Russ,

I know you've been wanting another .458. Looks like you got a good one. Congrats.

Doug
 
Very cool. I met Bob over 20 years ago thru an Arizona outfitter friend of mine. He was over for a SCI event. I definitely regret not going over and hunting with him. Still dreaming of hunting buffalo in Australia!

It’s always been a dream of mine too. Hopefully next year or the year after…
I think it will be so cool to have one of Bob’s rifles back up there taking care of business…
 
Sarg,

Thank you so much for your input... it is very much appreciated!

I do have a question for you though... what projectiles did you load in the .458s?

I have an old shooting magazine in my collection from many years ago, where Bob Penfold did a story on the original Barnes X bullet.
The story was titled, 'The Magic Bullet'.

In the story he writes that he loaded both the 400gn and the 500gn in the .458s, and while the 400gn was 'satisfactory' and killed the buffalo, the 500gn was much more impressive.
In the story he said the buffalo died with 1 shot, which he said was rare.

In the story he also writes that he deliberately held the velocity of the 500gn bullet to 2000fps, as he said he's never known a buffalo at very close range to ever notice the difference between a 500gn bullet doing 2000fps or 2100fps or 2150fps...
This seems to go against the rule that Barnes X needs to be driven fast...?

Now all this I'm quoting from the article; these are not my words. I'm just recounting what Bob wrote.

So, I always assumed that Bob's .458s shoot the Barnes projectiles, but I was also told from someone who knew Bob well that the rifles fired Woodleighs?

Would you mind clarifying what your experience was?
Did the .458s use the Barnes regularly?
Or did they use Woodleighs?
Oh, and how effective were they against the big stuff? I'm sure they did alright... ;)

Thanks so much mate, I really appreciate your time and input. (y)

Russ

Right I had a dig under the stairs & can’t find any of the 500gr Barnes loads of Bobs sorry, used them last year (unless some at home) but found the Norma stuff that was amazing.

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Note the Hellish price in Australia !

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Hi Russ, back in the day Bob was one of the most famous Aussie Outfitters/hunters & the company had all the famous US hunters hunting with us.

Many companies testing bullets on big game from multiple Buffalo to horses & Donkeys.

The Barnes guys came out & that is how we ended up with a heap of their bullets, the 500gr killed Buffalo better but took up a lot of cartridge space, not sure on his loads, I had some till last year but shot a lot of Buffalo & I don’t think any lift, I’ll check.

Yes we had a lot of Woodleighs in 500gr which I actually prefer over the 480gr as they seemed to me to stop them better, also lots of White Box 500-510gr Winchester ammo which I used extensively, Remington stuff was absolute rubbish & they should of been sued.

Now last year I ran out of my old ammo as so much shooting & I managed to find a box of Norma loaded with 500gr Swift A Frames, it was night & day different, was like hitting them with a .500NE !

This season I was issued a .458 Lott but didn’t shoot anything, ammo costs are so high & not that available I tried extra hard to not have to shoot, also with the Banteng it was less likely that a Bull would run into a Crocodile & Leech (also extra double dose of Mosquitoes) infested swamp just on dark !

Sarg,

How would you rate the 480gn Woodleigh’s as far as killing power goes on buffalo, scrub bulls, etc…

I have loaded up a few to get the rifle sorted and I’ve used them before, but I have been tossing up between them, or the Atomic 29 450gn copper hollow points.

The Woodleigh’s are getting good speed and accuracy - but I use the Atomic projectiles in my 425 Express (360gn) and they shoot awesome.

So at the moment I’m kind of torn, but if the 480’s are lacking, it’ll make my choice easier…

Russ
 
Whoa! That is an insane price! o_O

I heard the A-Frames are good – but at that price they would want to be very, very, very good!

Russ


Haha yes, expensive stuff but that ammunition is incredible & really hammered the Big Bulls, impressive & made my normal run of the mill ammo - well look run of the mill !!

I did a lot of shooting one year with Bow Hunters, Spear Hunters & open sighted Double Shooters & the 480gr Woodleigh loads didn’t seem to whack/Stop them as well as the 500gr Woodies.

Then I had a bit of shooting last year, with some hunters taking 4-5 Bulls & those Norma A frames were throwing them to the ground.

The 480gr will work fine, just I didn’t find them as decisive on big Buffalo.

On Scrub Bulls & most likely Banteng would be fine !
 
Hey everyone,

I thought I'd post a pic or 2 of my latest .458 Win Mag, and what's special is I thought I'd never own it.

It was one of several rifles owned by the late Bob Penfold, who ran Hunt Australia, one of Australia's premier hunting safari companies.
Bob was known as "the grandfather of the big game hunting industry of the South Pacific".

He had a rifle built known as 'Black Max', a M98 Mauser with a 22" Magnaported barrel chambered in .458WM. This rifle got it's name as it was all painted black.
Then he had 3 more built, based on his original rifle.
Then he had several more built to the same specifications that were used around the various camps by the guides and visiting clients.

Bob retired (and has since passed away, RIP), and Hunt Australia was then run by a fellow named Matt, who took over. Unfortunately, Matt passed away suddenly at a young age, and Hunt Australia then ceased to exist.
When Hunt Australia ended, the equipment – including the rifles – was sold off. I heard about this and immediately put my hand up for one of Bob's .458's.
While I was waiting, a brand new Zastava .458 became available, so I bought that instead. That rifle served me well, but I always regretted not getting one of Bob Penfold's rifles...

A few weeks ago on an Australian hunting forum, randomly someone said they owned one. I immediately messaged him and asked if he was interested in selling, but he wasn't. But he did tell me someone else who owned one, and maybe they would?
I contacted this person, and they were 50/50 on whether they'd sell or not.
I absolutely hounded this person (who I kind of knew) mercilessly until they eventually gave in and sold! And as a bonus, he only live a few hours from me so no postage... I just drove down and picked it up in person!

So now, I finally own one of Bob Penfold's rifles...

I need to mention that the reason I wanted one of these rifles so bad was because I'd read about 'Black Max' and these other rifles in magazines growing up.
I'd read about them and thought to myself how cool it would be to own one... and now I do.

When I picked it up, it looked like this...

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It now looks like this... everything done by me.

View attachment 788937

When I first got it, it shot like this...

View attachment 788936

After a scrubbing with Sweets and a bronze brush – and using my usual .458 load consisting of the 480gn Woodleigh RNSP and 2206H, it now shoots 3 shots like this at 50m...

View attachment 788935

I got good speed with this load too. In the stubby 21" Magnaported barrel I got this...

View attachment 788933

The scope that came with this rifle – the very same one that has lived on this rifle from the start – isn't the same one in the pic. The original scope is a Leupold 1.5-5x and the scope in the pic is a Leupold M8 4 power.
The reason for this is the original scope is being refurbished by Leupold. Life on a .458 for a scope – regardless of brand – is a hard one, and I just wanted it freshened up before I started seriously hunting with it. The 4 power is only a temporary scope until the original is back.

So this .458 is number 6... and this one is a keeper. I let one of these rifles slip through my fingers years ago, and I'm not making that mistake again.
Rather miraculously, I managed to locate 2 of them, and even more miraculously, I actually managed to buy one.

My plan was to load the 450 gn Atomic-29 copper hollow-point in it. I was going to aim for a velocity of around 2200 fps. That I thought to myself would be a potent load. But as the 480gn Woodleighs seem to shoot well in it, I'll use them for the moment. 2123fps with a 480gn projectile sounds pretty potent too...

So there it is, .458 number 6.
And even though the .458WM is my favourite cartridge, I never thought I'd get another one when I sold my last Zastava... but then again, I never thought I'd track one of Bob Penfold's rifles down...

I just need to blood it now, so keep your eyes peeled...

Russ

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@Badboymelvin
Now you have a big boy toy again I suppose that lovely little 425 express will go down the road Russ. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Bob was around for years and I remember reading his articles. He was the founding father of safaris in Australia.
Well done in getting one of his rifles.
Now all you have to do is get it back up in the territory where it belongs and hunt buffalo.
Bob
 
I’m just terrible for remembering stuff like that.

Don’t let it worry you, I prefer to poke fun at Bob.

I fully understand swapping and trading to make ends meet then catching up again on the upside. Done it many times myself

All the reading I did shows the .458 got a bad wrap but with modern powder it’s a thumper.

As always I’m interested in the next chapter.
@CBH Australia
Chris you can poke all the fun at me you like I have broad shoulders.
Are you still drinking Bundy at 8:30 in the morning. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Bob
 
Sarg,

How would you rate the 480gn Woodleigh’s as far as killing power goes on buffalo, scrub bulls, etc…

I have loaded up a few to get the rifle sorted and I’ve used them before, but I have been tossing up between them, or the Atomic 29 450gn copper hollow points.

The Woodleigh’s are getting good speed and accuracy - but I use the Atomic projectiles in my 425 Express (360gn) and they shoot awesome.

So at the moment I’m kind of torn, but if the 480’s are lacking, it’ll make my choice easier…

Russ
@Badboymelvin
On the big buff I would use Camerons atomic 29s but that's me.
Bob
 
@Badboymelvin
Now you have a big boy toy again I suppose that lovely little 425 express will go down the road Russ. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Bob was around for years and I remember reading his articles. He was the founding father of safaris in Australia.
Well done in getting one of his rifles.
Now all you have to do is get it back up in the territory where it belongs and hunt buffalo.
Bob

No mate, the 425 isn't going anywhere.
I have it set up just perfect. (y)
Once again, a 360gn Atomic29 projectile fired at 2500fps will do anything I ever need...

And it's not little...
 
No mate, the 425 isn't going anywhere.
I have it set up just perfect. (y)
Once again, a 360gn Atomic29 projectile fired at 2500fps will do anything I ever need...

And it's not little...
@Badboymelvin
Have a look at the photo of me shooting it mate.
Looks little in my hands and has the recoil of a kittens caress.
Bob
 
No mate, the 425 isn't going anywhere.
I have it set up just perfect. (y)
Once again, a 360gn Atomic29 projectile fired at 2500fps will do anything I ever need...

And it's not little...
@Badboymelvin
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That 425 express sure looks little ( either that or I'm a big bastard ) but man it's a beautiful rifle and nice to shoot.
That thing will handle anything that walks.
Bob
 
@Badboymelvin
Have a look at the photo of me shooting it mate.
Looks little in my hands and has the recoil of a kittens caress.
Bob

No it doesn't mate, it's a sub-9lb rifle shooting a 400gn bullet at over 2300fps for over 65ft/lbs of recoil... and it kicks exactly like you think it would... a LOT
 
No it doesn't mate, it's a sub-9lb rifle shooting a 400gn bullet at over 2300fps for over 65ft/lbs of recoil... and it kicks exactly like you think it would... a LOT
Relax mate. At least.Bob didn't say it was equal to a .243.
 

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