Delta Airlines - What Am I Missing

I’m in the early planning phase for my next Safari. I’m looking at options to get me to Johannesburg. From there, I will be flying to either Zimbabwe or Mozambique. For this post, I’m focusing on the legs from St. Louis to a hub and then to Johannesburg.

Comparing Delta airlines to Emirates makes me wonder why anyone would choose Delta….unless they have a boat load of Delta miles to apply. The following is for a May 2027 booking.

Delta
Class: Delta One (their version of business class)
Itinerary: STL-ATL-JNB
Total Travel Time: 19 hours (including a 2 hour layover in ATL)
Cost: $11,700
Misc: DL arrives in JNB at 7:40pm which necessitates an overnight hotel stay

Emirates:
Class: Business
Itinerary: STL-ORD-DXB-JNB
Total Travel Time: 25 hours (including a 2 hour layover in ORD and another 4 hours in DXB )
Cost: $7,000 (including $350 for the American Airlines flight from STL-ORD)
Misc: EK arrives in JNB at 5:30am which allows me to catch a flight to Zim or Moz without a night at JNB)

Pros:
Delta - One less connection and 6 hours less total travel time
Delta - The new Delta One service is supposed to be nice
Delta - Guns can be checked straight through to JNB. Emirates makes me claim my guns from American in Chicago and recheck with them. Hassle.
Emirates - nearly $5K cheaper than Delta
Emirates - Dubai International beats the hell out of Atlanta-Hartsfield
Emirates - Newer planes, friendlier service, better food
Emirates - Early morning arrival in JNB gives you an option to skip the overnight in JNB

I’ve flown both routes and I’m amazed that Delta fills their planes while charging far more. Thoughts from those who’ve done the same?
I am glad you pointed this out, as I live in Saint Louis and always go ATL or Newark (God, f**k the Newark Airport) straight to Joburg.
 
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I have my wife drop me off at the airport. It's free. And that way when I land I get to see her that much sooner. As far as the other stuff - I think were just in a different place in this world. I am retired Army. Don't know what lounge access or an A380 is. I'm happy with a Bud and a bag of peanuts.
I travel all the time. Early in our relationship my wife and I agreed airport pickups and drop offs are not a thing for us.

I would hate to make her fight traffic out to Dulles and back just to save a few bucks.
 
OT, checked Turkish Airlines and biz next April, midweek out of Dulles (IAD) round trip was 6138, layover in Istanbul.

Turkish Air also has a deal for international connecting flights through Istanbul, where you get a hotel room for an overnight stay as part of b-class ticket.

Turkish has direct flights to Istanbul from many major US cities. B-class on the 787 planes is much nicer than the older 777s. Turkish uses both aircraft, so factor that in.
 
Yeah war going on in Iran. That is the number one reason I would fly Delta, and drop down to a lower class of seat.

That is why Emirates is cheaper right now, they know that their terminal and airport might get destroyed by an Iranian missile.
 
Just food for thought but one of the gents I hunted with last year upgraded from cattle to business for $100 the day of the flight the rest of us road cattle class. That was with united
 
one thing to think about if you are taking a suppressor and you have to claim your bags in Chicago and when you recheck your gun case and have a suppressor in it you could be in BIG trouble as they are illegal in Chicago
Long as it’s legal where you’re going and where you’re coming from your fine. You also have federal document with the suppressor giving you permission to temporarily export and reimport it.
 
My 2 cents:

(1) United is a horrible airline not a chance I would take that flight. (2) Delta, direct is always best, but not in this case. Going anywhere other than JNB requires an overnight in Jo'berg and you are paying a large premium for the privilege of the direct flight, not worth it. (3) BA very easy (but expensive) with firearms as long as all flights are on BA metal and all flights use Heathrow. Gatwick/Heathrow combination and you are screwed. (4) Qatar, nice planes, great service from young thin FA, mainly from the Philippines. Have to overnight in Doha, two hotels in the airport, more than 8 hours Qatar pays. (5) Emirates seats are not as good in business than Qatar, service is better than Qatar. Young, thin GA mainly from Europe. Have to over night in Dubai, you ahem to stay off airport. Sometimes included in ticket. Better on board snacks on Emirates than Qatar. (6) Turkish, average seats, excellent food, good FA's, very expensive with firearms.

Planes: A350 v B787. Seats on A350 are 1 inch wider in all classes. A380 v B747 v 777. A380 more spacious plane.

What flight would I book today? I would book the BA flight. It avoids the Middle East. Next year, summer hunting, if war is over, the Qatar flight.
 
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you dint always have to overnight in Doha or Dubai.

My trip next week on Qatar we land at 5:00 pm and leave at 2:00 am. I don’t consider that an overnight but they do provide a hotel. On the return it is a 2 hour layover. We will just hang out in the first class lounge which has free sleeping rooms as well.

Looking at Emirates was originally a 2 hour layover outbound. And an overnight on the return with them providing a hotel. That fit changed when the war started and they reduced capacity by switching from the A380 to 777. The slower plane lands later and you can’t do the short outbound layover for the time being. But I expect that will eventually change back.
 
Emirates is very nice. They are hurting from the war with Iran.
Delta is fine too, but can get pricey.
Qatar and Turkish are outstanding as well.
 
I’m in the early planning phase for my next Safari. I’m looking at options to get me to Johannesburg. From there, I will be flying to either Zimbabwe or Mozambique. For this post, I’m focusing on the legs from St. Louis to a hub and then to Johannesburg.

Comparing Delta airlines to Emirates makes me wonder why anyone would choose Delta….unless they have a boat load of Delta miles to apply. The following is for a May 2027 booking.

Delta
Class: Delta One (their version of business class)
Itinerary: STL-ATL-JNB
Total Travel Time: 19 hours (including a 2 hour layover in ATL)
Cost: $11,700
Misc: DL arrives in JNB at 7:40pm which necessitates an overnight hotel stay

Emirates:
Class: Business
Itinerary: STL-ORD-DXB-JNB
Total Travel Time: 25 hours (including a 2 hour layover in ORD and another 4 hours in DXB )
Cost: $7,000 (including $350 for the American Airlines flight from STL-ORD)
Misc: EK arrives in JNB at 5:30am which allows me to catch a flight to Zim or Moz without a night at JNB)

Pros:
Delta - One less connection and 6 hours less total travel time
Delta - The new Delta One service is supposed to be nice
Delta - Guns can be checked straight through to JNB. Emirates makes me claim my guns from American in Chicago and recheck with them. Hassle.
Emirates - nearly $5K cheaper than Delta
Emirates - Dubai International beats the hell out of Atlanta-Hartsfield
Emirates - Newer planes, friendlier service, better food
Emirates - Early morning arrival in JNB gives you an option to skip the overnight in JNB

I’ve flown both routes and I’m amazed that Delta fills their planes while charging far more. Thoughts from those who’ve done the same?
I have flown both and I'll take Emirates any day over Delta.
 

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