Suppressor or Mercury Recoil Reducer - DG

BANISH 46-V2 from Silencer Central. Now $200 cheaper than when I bought it last year.

I’ve been thinking about trying a falcon strike recoil pad. Has anybody tried one of these?

Andrew NOLA said:

BANISH 46-V2 from Silencer Central. Now $200 cheaper than when I bought it last year.

BANISH 46-V2

$150 Silencer Central Rebate Eligible The BANISH 46-V2 is designed primarily for big-bore rifle calibers, including .338 Lapua, .45-70 Government, and .450 Bushmaster, as well as pistol calibers. Multi-caliber suppressor Industry-standard HUB mount – 1.375×24 Titanium construction

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I have their 30

The fact you are asking and contemplating it, I’d lean towards saying both. Nice thing is if you decide it’s unnecessary, spin the supressor off. It will however noticeably reduce recoil and report.

My 14yo daughter was somewhat recoil sensitive when we started ahooting, granted she was 7 at the time and shooting 6.5 Creed. Learned the report causes as mich as the recoil. Added suppressor and started practicing on long pistol bay where she wasn’t around other large rifles firing on the line. Really helped. She’s shot suppressed exclusively since.

Back in June when I took her to South Africa, at the end of the trip she had decided she wanted to hunt Cape buffalo with me in the future. She was 13 then, and told her only if the ex-misses agreed, she was at least 16 and could comfortably and accurately shoot a 375 H&H. Outfitter said one of their suppressed 375’s was in camp if she wanted to give it a whirl…she jumped at the chance.

She ran several rounds through it off sticks, hitting bull each time and finished with a smile. She said later that it really did recoil more but like a shove vs slap. So I told her she could have one of my Winchester classic 375’s and we’d get it shortened (stock and barrel) and set up for a suppressor.

They make a big difference, so if considering or even questioning if you should…likely means yes. And if adding the weight/length, why not add a little in the butt as well unless it will prove too heavy for you.

I'm more in favor of adding weight.

This can be done during the build by using a heavier contour barrel and this is my preference.

Mercury or mechanical recoil reducers work, but most of this comes from the weight they add. Cast lead blocks can be added in the forearm under the barrel and of course in the butt. Adding one pound of weight will noticably reduce recoil, and 1.5-2 pounds of added weight will really tame the hard kickers.

Muzzle brakes are fine for practice on an outdoor range, but would not be welcome on a hunt.

As an afterthought, when will someone adapt the Gracoil to Big Bore rifles.

Garciamarquez1918 said:

I don't know if you meant "same cost" for tungsten rod but if so I don't think that's correct. Tungsten has gone through the roof. I had Tim install a mercury reducer in the buttstock of a 375 and tungsten in the fore end. Adds weight and maintains balance.

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@Garciamarquez1918
thanks for paying attention! You are right, last year 75W/25Cu cost me $350 for 3/4x8", just checked and now is $950! can get four 8oz wt, so now would be $250 per 8oz vs $80 for the mercury. Double Wow. glad i picked some up last year.
Yeah, I provided him with your rod diameter and length in the forearm. Now would be about $100 for the rod in the forearm.

Anyone ever use the hydraulic "Counter-Coil" in the buttstock, or the mechanical version by Gracoil?

Skydiver beat me to it, oops.

The gracoil is way too ugly. That’s why I asked if anyone has tried the falcon strike pad. It’s not gorgeous either, but not that ugly

NIGHTHAWK said:

For DG rifles, 375 or larger, what works best for recoil reduction in your first hand experience? I don’t have either on my DG rifles.

My 450 Dakota came with the barrel threaded, a radial muzzle brake, and a threaded cap. Is anyone running one on a .400 cal?

Considering a recoil reducer on my 450 Dakota. I’m not particularly recoil sensitive, but it does have significant felt recoil.

Pros and Cons Mercury Recoil Reducer?
1. Does a mercury recoil reducer compromise the integrity of a stock?
2. Who would you have to install one?
3. Brand and size?
4. Any bad experiences or reason not to install one?

Pros and Cons Suppressor - 375H&H or Larger?
1. What DG rifle are you using a suppressor on?
2. What brand do you use? Why?
3. Did you cut your barrel down? How much?
4. What would you do different?
5. Is the net benefit worth it?

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Mercury recoil reducers are a bit of a scam. I don't think the idea of them sloshing around does anything magical. I do use them for what they are actually doing, however. They are adding weight. Getting a rifle to a proper weight, a compromise between comfortable to carry and heavy enough to shoot is worth the effort.

For a 375HH, I like it to weigh 10.25lbs with scope/rings/sling for total weight. Most out of the box with iron sights 375HHs weigh around 8.75lbs. The difference between 10.25 and 8.75lbs of rifle is a LOT of difference in recoil.

I don't like suppressors for Africa because is an NFA regulated item begging for legal problems in transit. I don't like using cans on hunting rifles that aren't purposefully designed for them because it makes rifles long and unwieldly. I also don't like the fact that point of impact changes when you put it on and take it off, that's not good.

Muzzlebrakes work great for managing recoil, but they amplify noise to those to your left and right which is not courteous to the guides and trackers on a guided hunt.

If your gun weighs the correct amount, none of this other stuff needs to be dealt with under most circumstances.

Andrew NOLA said:

BANISH 46-V2 from Silencer Central. Now $200 cheaper than when I bought it last year.

BANISH 46-V2

$150 Silencer Central Rebate Eligible The BANISH 46-V2 is designed primarily for big-bore rifle calibers, including .338 Lapua, .45-70 Government, and .450 Bushmaster, as well as pistol calibers. Multi-caliber suppressor Industry-standard HUB mount – 1.375×24 Titanium construction

www.silencercentral.com

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Just ordered it today…

It will work on my 450 Dakota, 375H&H, and 300RUM. My SAKO 85L in 375H&H has a barrel length of 24 3/8” so I’ll have it cut to 22” and threaded.

BryceM said:

I have never used mercury reducers. Removing enough material from the stock to install them would make me slightly nervous on a heavy-recoiling rifle, which is exactly the rifle that needs them.

I have used suppressors on a variety of rifles from .223 up to .375. I really, really enjoy them, and I see little downside for African PG and most North American hunting. I used the .375, for kudu, giraffe, and klipspringer. For DG, I'd favor simple, quick, and reliable. The need for quick follow-up shots and the need to maneuver in heavy cover makes a suppressor too cumbersome.

Most cans that can handle .375 and .416 rifles are pretty big too - long and fat.

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I have two mercury recoil reducers that were installed by the CZ Custom Shop in my 500 Jeffery when I bought it from them. The balance is perfect, no sloshing that I can hear and over 500 full power rounds through it with no issues.

I had a weatherby Vanguard in .375. Muzzle heavy and kicked pretty good. It had the hollow synthetic stock, so I removed the recoil pad and added 15.5 ounces of lead held in place with silicone caulking. It was much nicer to shot and balanced perfectly after the modification. I’m not a fan of muzzle breaks because of how loud they are. I don’t want to wear hearing protection when I’m hunting. Never had a mercury reducer so I can’t comment on them.