Hornady 450/400 3"

Bandera said:
I agree Tanks. I shoot a No.1 in 450-400 and find it pleasant to shoot. Proper stance and balance make a huge difference.
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The Ruger #1 is probably the only rifle that i would want reduced loads for. They have always been too light for DG cartridges. The last #1 i held was a 458 lott that only weighed 7lb! :E Rofl:

The 450/400 in a properly designed rifle has extremely mild recoil. If it is hurting you, than either your gun is poorly designed or your not using the proper technique. But even when it comes to technique... The 450/400 (much like most 375s) is extremely forgiving.
 
Took me a while to wrap my head around around this thread. I have read and reread it a couple of times. I kept seeing adding the weight of the charge to weight of the gun to decrease/increase recoil.

Click the light went on. The OP is actually addressing increasing/decreasing charge weight to adjust bullet velocity to increase or reduce recoil. The actual weight the powder added to rifle weight is going to be insignificant in the recoil calculation. The increase or decrease in charge weight will affect bullet velocity and that change will address recoil.

Got it.

I bought my No.1 450/400 to go after Cape Buffalo. Age, health and fitness caught up to me, so I have put that aside. I reduced bullet weight from 400gr to 300gr and now have a pleasant shooting Deer rifle that has worked good on bear and hogs also. And is very accurate. It does have more recoil than a 30-06 but leaves a better blood trail and recoil is not concussive. ( makes a larger hole with less meat damage, because I eat what I kill-don't tell my Doctor) This gun has become my go to gun for the type deer hunting do now. My 338/06AI and my 308 Norma now sit in the safe gathering dust-front row ready go if needed however. The N0.1 7x57 goes to the field as a back-up.
 
TheDoubleD said:
Took me a while to wrap my head around around this thread. I have read and reread it a couple of times. I kept seeing adding the weight of the charge to weight of the gun to decrease/increase recoil.

Click the light went on. The OP is actually addressing increasing/decreasing charge weight to adjust bullet velocity to increase or reduce recoil. The actual weight the powder added to rifle weight is going to be insignificant in the recoil calculation. The increase or decrease in charge weight will affect bullet velocity and that change will address recoil.
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I've done load development on 20+ doubles, currently own 9. While I don't believe I have shot anything other than RL15 in the two 400 guns I have owned I have shot many slower powders in others. With the same gun shooting the same bullet at 2150 the slower powder of say one of the 4831 variant's against a RL15 or Varget will have significantly more recoil.

I have had a good half a dozen guns that would not regulate with RL15 at desired speed of say 2050 or 2150 and the bullet needed more barrel dwell time for bullets to converge on the target. Running a slower powder has done the trick but it does increase the felt recoil.
 
TheDoubleD said:
Click the light went on. The OP is actually addressing increasing/decreasing charge weight to adjust bullet velocity to increase or reduce recoil. The actual weight the powder added to rifle weight is going to be insignificant in the recoil calculation. The increase or decrease in charge weight will affect bullet velocity and that change will address recoil.
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You are close, but not quite there yet. The weight of the powder charge makes a difference, that is correct. However, that is without losing the bullet velocity. In other words, using a faster burning powder means you need less powder charge while maintaining the same velocity of a slower burning powder using more of a charge.
 
I added an 8 oz mercury recoil reducer to my No1 in 450/400 3” because the rifle was just too light. It slipped right into the factory bolt hole under the recoil pad. I shoved a few pieces of styrofoam on each end so it fit snugly in the hole under the pad. Rifle now at 10.5 lbs scopedwith ammo on the buttstock carrier and it’s the sweetest shooting little thing I have! Factory loads no problemo!

YMMV,

Good Luck.
 
Thank you Gents for your feed back.

I will not be making this hunt, but my son might, maybe using my rifle. He hasn't decide yet.

Your advice is as I thought. Thank you.
 
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