Favorite Darling Small-Mid Bore Double?

Wildwillalaska, many Thanks for that pic tutorial, I'll have to get little Wife ahold of that and see, she's the brains of this outfit, smart girls are indeed cool, and awful handy, especially in my case ; ]

BTW Tanks and 318AE, beautiful rifles, Cat and Bushbuck.
 
The 360 Buckhammer is rimmed, it's a straight walled 30-30 that shoots .358 bullets. Ballistically identical to the 358 Winchester. It would make a great whitetail double rifle.

The 360B might make a decent whitetail double-gun round but the .358W is pushing same weight bullets 300+ fps faster. Not sure that could be considered “ballistically identical”.
 
The 360B might make a decent whitetail double-gun round but the .358W is pushing same weight bullets 300+ fps faster. Not sure that could be considered “ballistically identical”.
My load is a 200gr Hornady at 2400fps, that is what I was going off of. We can say its between a 35 Rem and a 35 Win...
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My load is a 200gr Hornady at 2400fps, that is what I was going off of. We can say its between a 35 Rem and a 35 Win...
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No, I’d say if that is a chronographed load, you’re nipping on the heels of factory .358W. If memory serves, factory velocity numbers for a 200gr bullet are 2500+/- for .358W and 2200+/- for 360B. I wasn’t aware handloaders were bumping the 360B up to the level you claim. Impressive.
 
I do not think the 360 buckhammer will last through time. However for the ranges that DR’s typically are useful, it’s factory ballistics of a 180gr at 2400fps or better yet, a 200gr at 2200fps would be perfect. It is a straight wall case larger than 35 caliber so it would work in certain restricted states. One complaint that I have heard is that almost all the straight wall cartridges are made in cheap rifles with crappy synthetic stocks. Low recoil, effective medium game caliber in a modern cartridge with modern boxed ammo “available”
 
I can't tell from the photos. Does it have the unique MacNaughton elongated top lever? Is it a skeleton action, or a rounded boxlock?
The 303 MacNaughton does not have the elongated skeletonized top lever; however, I have a MacNaughton 450 double that is a bar in wood with elongated and skeletonized top lever and cocking indicator window.

The one in the photos is a trigger plate round action...........MacNaughton produced approximately five double rifles with no ribs between the barrels. Four were 303 British and one was a 600NE.

EJ
 
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It does not have the elongated skeletonized top lever, however I have a MacNaughton 450 double that has is a bar in wood with skeleton top lever and cocking indicator window.

The one in the photos is a trigger plate round action...........MacNaughton produced approximately five double rifles in the configuration you see in the photo of all calibers.

EJ
That MacNaughton must be a thing of beauty.
 
I only have one to choose from, but it's a favourite. A "non-traditional" Beretta Silver Sable O/U in 9.3x62. I like the O/U configuration, love the good S&B scope it wears, and find it accurate. It's been effective on the limited game I've taken, only two bears to date. I wish my 67 year old eyes were still compatible with iron sights, but that ship has sailed. I currently only hunt with scope equipped rifles.
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I only have one to choose from, but it's a favourite. A "non-traditional" Beretta Silver Sable O/U in 9.3x62. I like the O/U configuration, love the good S&B scope it wears, and find it accurate. It's been effective on the limited game I've taken, only two bears to date. I wish my 67 year old eyes were still compatible with iron sights, but that ship has sailed. I currently only hunt with scope equipped rifles. View attachment 730743View attachment 730744
I’ve never seen a double in 9.3 x 62 .. Nice looking outfit.
 
Very nice and most useful rifles here Gents.

Mine is a little RB Rodda top lever hammer rifle with rebounding locks and 26.5" fluid steel barrels chambered in 303 British, 215gr Woodleigh Weldcores at 2168 fps have shot through every deer or pig I've pointed it at, extremely accurate, point and shoot to a dead 100 yards.

IMHO every double rifle needs a solid load, with none available for my rifle I did a little experimenting, FL size your 303 British brass with expander ball/button removed from the die, seat 210gr CEB flat nosed #13 copper solid to just below front driving band on preferred powder charge, crimp case mouth over front drive band.

I have fired five 215gr Woodleighs from the right barrel front trigger and have yet to have the solid slip forward any at all under recoil, that bullet runs 2220 fps with the same charge of powder for the 215 Woodleigh and also regulates beautifully.

The CEB flat nosed copper solid will shatter any bones it hits at the hip/pelvic region of any large African Antelope/Zebra/Wildebeest etc, the bullet will then punch the liver, range on up and through the lungs, on through the heart and most likely exiting the chest/neck of the animal, and all that's after the animal turns to run from taking a slug hole punch from the little 215gr Woodleigh first shot.

I shot that 210gr CEB solid dead straight through a standing and live 18 inch red oak tree here at the farm at 20 yards, in and out, unreal penetration, animal tissue, bone, hide, fat, etc can't catch that one.

Not to sidetrack the thread, just wanted to put this out there in case any other 303 British fans are reading.
I am a huge 303 fan in doubles , Lee Speeds and Mauser slant box rifles . Just great to hunt with .
 
I'm not a know it all, I certainly can be wrong. If you'd like to keep the convo going, lets PM each other. I promise you, on my honor, I have seen a 318 rimmed double rifle. Now to the question of what the hell did WR call that? Different story. I believe they did sell some as a 318 Accelerated Express "insert word to denote rimmed". They also had a square shouldered rim, they also had the .322 swift, they also had the 375/303 WR. You can imagine the pain of loading all of these since original berdan primed brass is unobtainable and a total pain to reload, plus its about impossible to form brass that would have the right rim. (we'd need a rimmed 35 whelen and a sizing die, neither of which exist)

P.S. - Its such a shame that Simon Clode passed away, he would set us straight in a way no other human could on this complex topic of WR rimmed calibers.
As I recall the 375/303 was a necked up 303 case firing about a 270 grain .375 calibre bullet . Common in Lee Speed rifles . Do I have this right ?
 
As I recall the 375/303 was a necked up 303 case firing about a 270 grain .375 calibre bullet . Common in Lee Speed rifles . Do I have this right ?
I saw one around 40 years ago. It was a 375/303 in a Lee Speed. It’s the only one I’ve ever seen.
 
There is a 375/303 for sale at the moment.


Andrew Hepner also has a nice Cogswell & Harrison double in .375 2 1/2" listed


I wonder if anyone ever did a double in .35 Territorian?
Converted by London Guns and now wearing a synthetic stock…. I wonder what type of heathen committed that indecent act.
 
An abomination indeed.
 

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bigrich wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile.
thanks for your reply bob , is it feasible to build a 444 on a P14/M17 , or is the no4 enfield easier to build? i know where i can buy a lothar walther barrel in 44, 1-38 twist , but i think with a barrel crown of .650" the profile is too light .
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I have quite a bit of 458 win mag brass, most of it new. How much are you looking for?

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bigrich wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile.
hey bob , new on here. i specifically joined to enquire about a 444 you built on a Enfield 4-1 you built . who did the barrel and what was the twist and profile specs ? look foward to your reply . cheers
 
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