Politics

[steve white]

Stop talking nonsense.........I'm not saying anything about extermination of the Jews--that's ludicrous.

What I DO say is--stop the extermination of the Palestinians.

Anything more than that--the details of the future of the Zionist regime, Netanyahu, finding Palestinian leaders, establishing a portion of Palestine called "Israel" and keeping peace.........smarter men than me have to do it.

But the first step would be stopping the extermination of the Palestinians.

That means slamming the brakes on the horrific predator creature called "Israel."

I'm going to block you....but first allow me to sincerely tell you to GO TO HELL!!!!!

 

[steve white]

That's a rosy perspective for Trump and his future.

What I see is an increasing number of people that see his extremes as far too destructive--and I see things falling apart.

We were raised to reject totalitarian government..........we don't accept dictators.

Here are the types of extremism that, added up, spell doom as they get worse.

Trump could still fix this by simply tapping the brakes on extremism........but I suspect he's listening to people like you.

So he's getting worse. This cannot succeed. He is simply obliterating the norms we grew up with and cherish.

• January 6 pardons: Trump's decision to pardon individuals convicted of crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol is one of his most unpopular actions. Polling found that 83% of Americans opposed pardons for those convicted of violent crimes in the riot, and a majority also opposed pardons for nonviolent offenders.
• Weaponization of government: Reports in 2025 indicate fears among some of Trump's critics that they could become targets for prosecution by his administration. This follows numerous past incidents, including repeated threats to use government agencies, such as the FBI and IRS, against political opponents.
• Attacks on the federal bureaucracy: Trump has often attacked the civil service, calling for mass firings of federal workers and proposing measures to weaken the independence of agencies. A 2025 poll found public disapproval of plans to lay off large numbers of government workers.
• Abuse of power: During his first term, and again in his second, Trump's administration has been cited for issues like Hatch Act violations, which prohibit using official positions for political purposes, and for ethical conflicts of interest involving his business holdings.

Immigration and border enforcement
This issue remains one of Trump's most central and divisive policy areas. While he draws strong support for his tough stance among his base, many of his proposals are broadly unpopular.

• Mass deportations: Trump has promised to launch the largest mass deportation program in U.S. history, but polls show disapproval, particularly regarding deporting long-term residents or those who entered as children. A 2025 poll indicated that public opinion of Trump's immigration policies had become more negative over time, even among his supporters.
• Separating families: The "zero-tolerance" policy at the border, which led to the separation of families and the failure to create proper records for reunification, was widely condemned by the public and has been cited as a significant human rights issue.
• Ending birthright citizenship: This proposal, which would require a constitutional change, is opposed by a majority of the public. An executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship in January 2025 was blocked by federal courts as unconstitutional.
• Travel bans: Restrictions on entry for people from predominantly Muslim countries, implemented during his first administration, met widespread opposition.

Economic and trade policy
While some Republicans credited Trump's policies with helping the economy, overall public opinion has been skeptical.

• Tariffs: His proposal for across-the-board tariffs of 10% to 20% is broadly unpopular due to concerns it would lead to higher inflation and job losses. His previous use of tariffs also drew criticism and retaliatory trade measures.
• Economic instability: Critics and economic experts have warned that other proposals, such as weakening the independence of the Federal Reserve and deliberately devaluing the U.S. dollar, could cause economic instability and harm business.

Social and civil rights
Trump's policies have targeted LGBTQ+ and racial equity initiatives, resulting in significant public backlash.

• Ending DEI initiatives: Trump has called for ending diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs within federal government institutions, a move that is deeply unpopular.
• LGBTQ+ rights: Proposed rollbacks of protections for transgender students and restrictions on gender recognition are widely opposed. A 2025 poll found majorities disapproved of policies seen as hostile to the LGBTQ community.
• Attacking abortion rights: Many have criticized Trump for his role in overturning Roe v. Wade, which revoked the constitutional right to abortion, and for continued rhetoric against abortion access.

Environment and health care
Trump has long faced criticism for his approach to both environmental protection and health care.

• Environmental rollbacks: Trump has taken steps to weaken environmental regulations, withdraw from the Paris Agreement, and promote fossil fuels, which often conflicts with public opinion.
• Attacking the ACA: His repeated promises to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA), a popular law, without providing a replacement plan, has consistently been met with public opposition.

You don't have to sell me, I'm already for Trump's initiatives.

 

[steve white]

Thanks for the opinion on my mom's decor of 1965.

We were among the rural poor.

Try to limit your personal attacks to me.

So, you're living with your mother?....

 

[Sideshow]

No burden on me.

I already gave you my opinions on the first step.

Next steps require world leaders.

Maybe you should have voted then. You said you didn’t vote in the last election as you didn’t like either candidate. If you didn’t participate you really have nobody to blame but the person in the mirror.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Everyone with children still actively participating in the public education system should watch a few protester interview videos. That is, the protesters being interviewed on why they are protesting.

It’s very apparent that a very high percentage are retired or current teachers and or professors.

Know who you are handing your children over to.

 

[deewayne2003]

That's a rosy perspective for Trump and his future.

What I see is an increasing number of people that see his extremes as far too destructive--and I see things falling apart.

We were raised to reject totalitarian government..........we don't accept dictators.

Here are the types of extremism that, added up, spell doom as they get worse.

Trump could still fix this by simply tapping the brakes on extremism........but I suspect he's listening to people like you.

So he's getting worse. This cannot succeed. He is simply obliterating the norms we grew up with and cherish.

• January 6 pardons: Trump's decision to pardon individuals convicted of crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol is one of his most unpopular actions. Polling found that 83% of Americans opposed pardons for those convicted of violent crimes in the riot, and a majority also opposed pardons for nonviolent offenders.
• Weaponization of government: Reports in 2025 indicate fears among some of Trump's critics that they could become targets for prosecution by his administration. This follows numerous past incidents, including repeated threats to use government agencies, such as the FBI and IRS, against political opponents.
• Attacks on the federal bureaucracy: Trump has often attacked the civil service, calling for mass firings of federal workers and proposing measures to weaken the independence of agencies. A 2025 poll found public disapproval of plans to lay off large numbers of government workers.
• Abuse of power: During his first term, and again in his second, Trump's administration has been cited for issues like Hatch Act violations, which prohibit using official positions for political purposes, and for ethical conflicts of interest involving his business holdings.

Immigration and border enforcement
This issue remains one of Trump's most central and divisive policy areas. While he draws strong support for his tough stance among his base, many of his proposals are broadly unpopular.

• Mass deportations: Trump has promised to launch the largest mass deportation program in U.S. history, but polls show disapproval, particularly regarding deporting long-term residents or those who entered as children. A 2025 poll indicated that public opinion of Trump's immigration policies had become more negative over time, even among his supporters.
• Separating families: The "zero-tolerance" policy at the border, which led to the separation of families and the failure to create proper records for reunification, was widely condemned by the public and has been cited as a significant human rights issue.
• Ending birthright citizenship: This proposal, which would require a constitutional change, is opposed by a majority of the public. An executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship in January 2025 was blocked by federal courts as unconstitutional.
• Travel bans: Restrictions on entry for people from predominantly Muslim countries, implemented during his first administration, met widespread opposition.

Economic and trade policy
While some Republicans credited Trump's policies with helping the economy, overall public opinion has been skeptical.

• Tariffs: His proposal for across-the-board tariffs of 10% to 20% is broadly unpopular due to concerns it would lead to higher inflation and job losses. His previous use of tariffs also drew criticism and retaliatory trade measures.
• Economic instability: Critics and economic experts have warned that other proposals, such as weakening the independence of the Federal Reserve and deliberately devaluing the U.S. dollar, could cause economic instability and harm business.

Social and civil rights
Trump's policies have targeted LGBTQ+ and racial equity initiatives, resulting in significant public backlash.

• Ending DEI initiatives: Trump has called for ending diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs within federal government institutions, a move that is deeply unpopular.
• LGBTQ+ rights: Proposed rollbacks of protections for transgender students and restrictions on gender recognition are widely opposed. A 2025 poll found majorities disapproved of policies seen as hostile to the LGBTQ community.
• Attacking abortion rights: Many have criticized Trump for his role in overturning Roe v. Wade, which revoked the constitutional right to abortion, and for continued rhetoric against abortion access.

Environment and health care
Trump has long faced criticism for his approach to both environmental protection and health care.

• Environmental rollbacks: Trump has taken steps to weaken environmental regulations, withdraw from the Paris Agreement, and promote fossil fuels, which often conflicts with public opinion.
• Attacking the ACA: His repeated promises to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA), a popular law, without providing a replacement plan, has consistently been met with public opposition.

Lol, as we say in Texas……

BLESS YOUR HEART!

 

[Brent in Az]

So, you're living with your mother?....

 

[Brent in Az]

I'm going to block you....but first allow me to sincerely tell you to GO TO HELL!!!!!

Don't let the troll get under your skin. It's exactly what the Jew hating Wikipedia expert is trying to do.

 

[Frostbite]

I’d give a whole quarter right now to read the story of that stud whitetail buck on @Frostbite wall.

It's probably worth 35 cents.



It's interesting, I think..........but it doesn't make me look like a great hunter.

When you read it you have to remember I was just a dumb 18-year-old kid.

 

[Brent in Az]

It's probably worth 35 cents.



It's interesting, I think..........but it doesn't make me look like a great hunter.

When you read it you have to remember I was just a dumb 18-year-old kid.

I see things haven't changed.....

 

[Frostbite]

This is what our members are trying to debate with. At some point it becomes a lost cause. They have all the answers and be damn if anyone is going to introduce any sort of opinion or fact to challenge thier mindset. View attachment 721585

LOL!

I don't know about Liberals, but it's become obvious that I (as a Moderate) have far more facts (that I back up with reliable links) and integrity than most of the confused posters here trying to invent arguments against me (or just relying on truly childish insults).

Children..........your insults don't bother me--they amuse me.

 

[steve white]

Don't let the troll get under your skin. It's exactly what the Jew hating Wikipedia expert is trying to do.

It's the Jew hating that did get under my skin....I can't brook that.
But, I did hit the ignore button, so life is easier going forward.

 

[Frostbite]

I'm going to block you....but first allow me to sincerely tell you to GO TO HELL!!!!!

Blocking facts that cause you butt hurt is a wise decision.

 

[Frostbite]

Maybe you should have voted then. You said you didn’t vote in the last election as you didn’t like either candidate. If you didn’t participate you really have nobody to blame but the person in the mirror.

Wrong.

I have played their game of forcing me to vote for the lesser of two evils for almost SIXTY YEARS.........I finally figured it out.

You ARE familiar with Einstein's definition of insanity, right?

I now vote only for divided government--because divided government mostly does nothing--and nothing is exactly what we need from government.

 

[Frostbite]

I see things haven't changed.....

The more things change--the more they stay the same.

 

[mdwest]

LOL!

I don't know about Liberals, but it's become obvious that I (as a Moderate) have far more facts (that I back up with reliable links)

Ummm... do you know what a link is?

I just went all the way back to page 3179 of this thread... youve made dozens of posts since Monday... the last link you posted (I only found 2 total) was post #63,599..

Perhaps you dont understand the meaning of the word link in the context of a web forum and the internet?

In fact you have CLAIMED to have reliable sources, but have stated you wont share them because they would just be refuted by people here.. (see your post #63,597)...

 

[Frostbite]

Don't let the troll get under your skin. It's exactly what the Jew hating Wikipedia expert is trying to do.

Oh, I see now--you think that speaking out against mass murder and ethnic cleansing and other war crimes is "Jew hating."

Your hatred of good Christian behavior is noted.

 

[Frostbite]

In fact you have CLAIMED to have reliable sources, but have stated you wont share them because they would just be refuted by people here.. (see your post #63,597)...

I copied that for you.

#63597 addressed a post that attacked Ilan Pappe with a lie. Study it.
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I suspect that frostbite won’t be interested in any source not written by a self hating Israeli communist like Pappé.

Any source I list (and there are many) that disagree with you would be similarly attacked by you.

Pappe is a world renowned historian and he's backed up by many others.
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I then posted a link from Google proving that Pappe is a Socialist and NOT a Communist.

There is nothing in my post #63597 about me thinking my posts would be refuted by someone here.

That has not happened yet, although I'd like to see it.

It would mean those who disagree are doing better work.

 

[Frostbite]

Disagreeing with a post by responding with a lie is not refutation.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Ethnic cleansing is when an innocent group is rounded up and murdered, and killed using the most efficient means possible.

the opposite of what is happening in the Strip since October 7 when an invading force captured innocent civilians, put babies in microwaves, cut babies out of pregnant women, murdered children in front of parents, killedparents in front of their children. that is not an act of war.

Palestinians have allowed Hamas to imbed themselves into the fabric of their culture and politics so until Palestinians take control of their own country and root Hamas out, they should not expect mercy.

If I were Netanyahu, I would not have agreed to a cease-fire until every Hamas member worldwide has been eradicated.

Or maybe Tim Walz or Minnesota liberals could take all the Palestinians into their homes. In 10 years they’d be doing to the Minnesota residents what they’re doing to Jews now. Demanding you give up your land or be killed.