What is good or bad about the .416 WBY?

25 years ago they didn't have the bullets they do today, you push a soft fast expanding bullet at WBY speeds it will not go as deep as the slower calibers -- it opens up to far to fast , by the example you show the 458 Lott is not as good as the 45-70 we all now better. I would take any of the bottom 3 before I took a 45-70
You're arguing with demonstrated results, not me. When a theory doesn't align with observed results, it's time to abandon or modify theory. That's how the scientific method works.

25 years ago we did have the bullets we have today - A Frame has been around since 1982, Woodleigh Weldcore since 1988, TBBC since 1992, North Fork SS since 1996, Rhino SS since 1999, and TSX since 2003.

You'll note the test was performed with solids, so bonded softs weren't even considered.

While not a cape buffalo, I've had more times I can count shooting deer with 165 gr 30-06 at under 100 yards, probably at 2800 fps, where the bullet didn't exit. At that distance and 160 gr 6.5x55 at 2380, I've never not gotten an exit wound.
 
Not here to argue -- but if you had a 45-70 or any of the other 3 -- what one do you thing a good PH would take to go out after Buff -- and It is science proving that speed and weight create energy , and you need a proper bullet to transfer that energy and allow the momentum carry it thru and not over expand and reduce penetration. All I can say is -- I know which one I will take into the bush.
 
You're arguing with demonstrated results, not me. When a theory doesn't align with observed results, it's time to abandon or modify theory. That's how the scientific method works.

25 years ago we did have the bullets we have today - A Frame has been around since 1982, Woodleigh Weldcore since 1988, TBBC since 1992, North Fork SS since 1996, Rhino SS since 1999, and TSX since 2003.

You'll note the test was performed with solids, so bonded softs weren't even considered.

While not a cape buffalo, I've had more times I can count shooting deer with 165 gr 30-06 at under 100 yards, probably at 2800 fps, where the bullet didn't exit. At that distance and 160 gr 6.5x55 at 2380, I've never not gotten an exit wound.
Very interesting and thanks for sharing.
I dug up the blog post. Wish there was a bit more data but it’s a useful challenge to the traditional narrative
 
Very interesting and thanks for sharing.
I dug up the blog post. Wish there was a bit more data but it’s a useful challenge to the traditional narrative

That is very interesting, but nobody is hunting wet newspaper.

Has anybody compared these in actual animals? Or ballistic gelatin?

Not throwing any shade on Garrett; his products have earned a great reputation, and if I was to hunt DG with my 45-70, I would use his ammo.
 
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I’ve been looking over the 416 Wby lately myself. Those DGR rifles look pretty good for the money. As a hand loader, I could load to Rigby ballistics and have a nice buffalo load very easily. Not that I need another rifle. Just getting bored I guess. lol!
 
Several people have mentioned loading the Wby down to Rigby ballistics in order to tame the recoil. Call me crazy but why not just buy the Rigby to start with and have plenty of factory ammunition options. If you want more fps you can heat up the Rigby with hand loads as well.
 
Several people have mentioned loading the Wby down to Rigby ballistics in order to tame the recoil. Call me crazy but why not just buy the Rigby to start with and have plenty of factory ammunition options. If you want more fps you can heat up the Rigby with hand loads as well.
Cause ya can’t buy a synthetic stocked Rigby for $3500.00. lol!
 
416 Rigby caliber, not Rigby brand. Plenty of affordable options. I have a couple of CZ's that shoot great and were under $3,000
 

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