Ruger M77 love them or hate them?

Of the three variations of the Ruger model M77; Tang Safety, MKII or Hawkeye. Which is your favorite, which is your least favorite and why? Also is there any another factory rifle at the Ruger price point aside from the various versions on the Winchester model 70 controlled round feed that would be a strong contender to the M77?
I really like the controlled round feed Model 77 Hawkeye Hunter. Chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum, it makes for a magnificent African plains game rifle.

I’m not saying that the original tang safety Ruger Model 77 push feed rifles are bad. But I did have a virtually brand new specimen chambered in .458 Winchester Magnum (with the ported barrel) give me extraction issues in Rhodesia in 1977 (with Winchester Super Speed 500Gr copper jacketed round nosed FMJ solid factory loads). An American client hunter had brought it on Safari and left it behind with my white hunter after the Safari was complete.
 
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Of the three variations of the Ruger model M77; Tang Safety, MKII or Hawkeye. Which is your favorite, which is your least favorite and why? Also is there any another factory rifle at the Ruger price point aside from the various versions on the Winchester model 70 controlled round feed that would be a strong contender to the M77?
My first hunting rifle that was my own not my dads or cousins was a 1978 Ruger M77 in 30-06 with tang safety. I sold it years later to my cousin who still has it and bought my second rifle the identical brand only in 7mm. Solid inexpensive guns mine were never MOA but a solid two inches at 100 yards with factory ammo perfect for deer hunting
 
I have had 30 something Ruger 77 mark I tang safefy ones mostly 338 win mags 243 win and 7 mm rem mag .I have mark II stainless rifles in 338 win mag and 264 win mag .I regret about all the ones I sold a full stock 22-250 tang ssfety , a 250 savage tang safery and a 7x57 tang safery .I forgot just got that 220 swift tang safety .My 338s and 264 win mags are super accurate like clover leaf groups at 100 yards .My best group was 1|2 group at 200 yards with my stainless 338 win mag 77 mark II good shooting rifle .I have hunted 40 years with my tang safety ruger 77s in 338 win mag .I do not like the mark II safety hard to get off quick and shoot .I shoot my tang safey 77s like a double barrel shotgun .I hope if Beretta takes over ruger they put the 77 back into full production .I bought the 243 win ruger 77 first used it loved the safery and action .I cant stand model 70 type safetys I have lost game fooling with them.
 
I have had 30 something Ruger 77 mark I tang safefy ones mostly 338 win mags 243 win and 7 mm rem mag .I have mark II stainless rifles in 338 win mag and 264 win mag .I regret about all the ones I sold a full stock 22-250 tang ssfety , a 250 savage tang safery and a 7x57 tang safery .I forgot just got that 220 swift tang safety .My 338s and 264 win mags are super accurate like clover leaf groups at 100 yards .My best group was 1|2 group at 200 yards with my stainless 338 win mag 77 mark II good shooting rifle .I have hunted 40 years with my tang safety ruger 77s in 338 win mag .I do not like the mark II safety hard to get off quick and shoot .I shoot my tang safey 77s like a double barrel shotgun .I hope if Beretta takes over ruger they put the 77 back into full production .I bought the 243 win ruger 77 first used it loved the safery and action .I cant stand model 70 type safetys I have lost game fooling with them.
I actually like the Ruger Mark II 3 position safety while it doesn’t extend out as far as a M70 safety I’ve not had any issues with this but then I grew up with M70 safeties and they are second nature to me. I bet if you did a few thousand repetitions it would become muscle memory.
 
I was a kid in the early 1980s. My brother had a tang safety 7 Mag. It was the worst kicking rifle I have ever shot. Nothing we did back then helped (139 grain loads). The worst since then was 3” mag slugs out of a pump 12 gauge.

Fast forward about 20 years and I took it moose hunting in Alaska with 160 grain loads and just accepted the humbling (pounding) it dished out. Lucky for me on that trip I got to site in a left handed 300nWin Mag right after checking zero in AK. Needless to say I wasn’t wanting to see a legal bull in the first couple of days of that hunt.

Never again for me. Plus I could never figure rings for it anywhere.
 
I became addicted to those extended floor plates, now all my rugers have them
It is an extremely well made piece. I’d love one on the .375 also but a good friend and master engraver, engraved the floor plate for me and I can’t bring myself to not use it….

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I bought my first center fire rifle when I was 17 (in 1973). I couldn’t afford a Winchester model 70 so I bought a new Ruger 77 tang safety in .270 Win for $165 (full retail). I still have the rifle and it still will put 3 shots into about an inch group. I didn’t find out about the barrel source thing until years later. I didn’t find have a Tang safety Ruger in 300 Winchester that would shoot into coffee cup sized groups so I traded it for something else. My original Ruger was built with a Douglas barrel and shoots well.

Ruger used Douglas barrels until 1973 then Wilson barrels until they started making their own in the 90s. I’ve read that the Wilson barrels were hit and miss because they cut too many barrels with the same reamer. If you got a barrel cut with a reamer at the end of its life you got a chattered up barrel.

Last summer I bought a Tang safety Ruger in 7x57 in great shape at a good price but made in 1975 (Wilson barrel). The gun wouldn’t shoot for sour apples and it hated 140 grain bullets. The gun was throated for long bullets and was a Wilson barrel. It had lots of chatter marks and coppered up real fast. I would take the rifle out and shoot 10 rounds then clean to bare metal and repeat (I’m retired so have time to mess with this). Last week I shot a 1.5 inch group using 160 grain bullets so I’m making progress. It might get to go deer hunting next fall.

Here’s a picture of bore shortly after I got it.
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What issue did you have?

It was a stainless version so I can't speak to the carbon steel blued ones. But it was cast, bolt, receiver, and trigger.

Being a gas turbine and aviation engineer that's also helped restructure a foundry that made aviation engine parts, you can say I'm probably more sensitive and picky as regards metals than is healthy for any human to be.
So take my observations with a grain of salt as most people perhaps wouldn't notice.

Casting in and of itself is not the problem, it was the finish. The finish was rough. I would guess it was in as-cast condition for cost-saving purposes. No finishing except the machining of the bolt path. I cleaned a lot of this up with some very fine polishing agent (same type used for seating rings on a scope) and it smoothed out the action quite a bit but it never approached the finish and fit of my older ruger mk2 shown in my prior post.

I didn't expect a jeweled bolt or anything like a custom action but even with a lot of grease or oil, it had a gritty feel to it (before I polished it) that I was not comfortable with.

The trigger pieces were also as-cast and I replaced the entire assembly with a Timney which was an improvement.

The rings were cast and took way too much polishing to approach anything resembling even contact on the scope.

That being said, the action design is robust and puts the hunter very much in control as @Hunter-Habib mentiond above. I also like the 3 position safety as it allows safer unloading than a standard safety.

None of this takes away from it being a robust design that has earned it's reputation, but I have reached the point where I don't want to put work and modifications into something that's brand new when i purchased it.

Ruger has exemplary customer service and I reached out to them and sent the rifle in. They returned it and told me it was within specifications. So i began the work of polishing and it improved as mentioned above but I was just not happy with it and eventually sold it despite it shooting some very nice groups.

On the plus side, the barrel had a nice satin finish that looked like it had been hit with 150 grit AlOx and kept the glare down. It also held a light bit of oil because of this. That was a good feature.
 
Have a bad right shoulder injury so have been at every chance to find nice Ruger 77's in left hand it would make its way home. Pick up a stainless steel 7 mm Rem Mag trigger needs a little work. Took it to the range yesterday and gave it a work out to see what it could do. Its definitely a keeper no problem keeping it under 1 1/4" at 200 yards. Shooting up some old Hornady 154 gr. bullets.
 

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