Gday
Still somewhat onto the hydraulic effect & time to show why my earlier comments on the FN solid can produce a better more consistent wound channel than the Barnes tsx that
@Philip Glass mentioned on his results in his rhino
Now angle definitely played a role in than but also now we need to delve a little deeper into what actually occurs in the wonderful terminal world of pills
Before I get into the Barnes mushroom monos
We better get the transition zone of a pill out the way first or I’m putting the horse before the cart somewhat
So the transition zone of the pill is where it goes from flight form to terminal form & the distance it takes on impacting the critter till it achieves its terminal form
Now pretty straight forward on a true solid ( definitely a difference between a FN& RN but we all understand that so I’ll just use a FN as only the best needs talking of ) as it’s already in its terminal form on impact & you see this in wounds as look @ this entry to the chest cavity that’s over caliber size !!!! ( more to come on that on why is simple textbook analysis)
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For reference my finger nail is this size
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then on what occurred in those wallaby lungs in my picture in post#92 occurred of way more damage goes to the FN that’s above the multi tool
Here’s the Barnes entry into chest cavity
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& the lungs in post#92 below the multi tool go with this also
This above is as simple as I can show without getting to much into the weeds & extremely important in understanding how things go pear shape within certain designs also let’s leave the different hardness or resistance of nose profiles out as it gets somewhat easier to work on one thing @ a time we’ll in my mind anyway lol
So a flat nose as it’s in its terminal form already can’t fail as it’s already in it thats 100% reliability ( leaving out alloy flow or deformation due to bone impacts etc )
Now to the Barnes or likes that take the flight form & changes till terminal form is reached & here is the issue & why the Barnes or like will never be as reliable on elephant as a Good FN
In that transition zone there are so many things that can go wrong & while they don’t happen every time I guarantee it will eventually & let’s take the terminal form of the Barnes
Now is this the actual or what a company tells us ???????????????????????????
Yes that’s a extremely important question & one we do see the textbooks getting shown time after time where I pose the question do you want to know when all goes right or it goes pear shape
My world
( NOW THE FOLLOWING IS NOT ME KNOWING EVERYTHING AS IM STILL LEARNING & DEFINITIVELY NO GURU BUT REAL WORLD RESULTS ILL SHOW ALSO SAY IM WRONG WHEN I AM )
& why bullet companies overall don’t like me as I will show the bad or less than ideal results some even though they’ve said publicly I’m a bullet companies worst nightmare they have the looked @ those adjusted & lifted the bar off those bad results & that I’m happy as we then get pills that cover more bases & that’s my world right there as I want as many bases covered as possible
So now it’s move onto the style of those meplats Here’s one of the best examples I’ve seen put up
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Pretty self explanatory & top two are what we are discussing here on wound channel on comparisons of the FN vrs the good mushrooms that Barnes produces
Honing in on the Barnes as that is textbook question I had above as Barnes will tell everyone that you’ll get a1.7 calibre or 2x calibre depending on the minimum impact velocity
So how much truth in that ?
100% in the media they test in I believe to be correct
Now reality paint a different picture as we have already discussed when you throw in the hydraulic needed to do this that doesn’t occur all the time you get varying results & velocity will somewhat help this as
@Riflecrank showed & some of those hammers velocity dosent always work but on Barnes a way safer minimum impact velocity is 2100 off various calibers I’ve tested in & 2400 is way more reliable but still will never match the FN for consistency
So I’m guessing I’ll get that still dosent prove that this occurs & only my textbook conversation that I’m putting up
So I think I’ve dribbled enough & leave you lot with these actuals & brief summary & let the individual go through the above & see why we need to delve deeper not just go off the good
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The killing of these Barnes pills below 2100 impact is one I’ve got no hesitation in saying a good solid will kill more efficiently & consistently that is a fact that cannot be denied but the Barnes also works well when it works as designed but elephant I think not but fatal they probably will be just depends which month lol
Cheers
