How effective is the 25-06 with either of these bullets?

JimP · May 31, 2020

I think that the problem would be if you don't kill it with a brain shot the odd are it is going to go into the water, and I doubt that you could find a tracker willing to go in after it. I have seen shows where they shoot hippos in the water with brain shots also but the gases in their stomachs quickly bloat the animal and he floats to the surface for a easy recovery with a boat, that croc may just sink to the bottom and never come back up.

I don't know if you have ever watched Swamp People on the TV here in the US but when they are sniping alligators with high power rifles they use a very large weighted treble hook with a line attached to hook the gators in the skin to get him up off of the bottom of the water and up to the boat.

Mr. Zorg · May 31, 2020

I've never traveled to Africa yet, so I can't comment from firsthand experience. And although I lived and worked in rural SE Louisiana I never went gator hunting, and those in the know informed me you could get in serious trouble with the game warden for shooting even near alligators under 4 feet long. Those were to be reported for relocation to a gator arm. Above 4 feet they were legally considered enough of a hazard. I know the gator that took up residence in our pond for a while was maybe 3 feet long tops, and I know it disappeared with neighbors who had cats and some little long haired dachsund cross.

But I found this, detailing getting the projectile into the vitals from a full broadside presentation or a CNS neck shot. And .243 Winchester is noted adequate but any of the .300 calibers (sic) are recommended.

https://huntinginafricasafaris.com/...ng-africa/hunting-crocodiles-in-south-africa/

While this site recommends .338 minimum and .375 maximum.

https://www.somerbysafaris.com/listing/hunting-a-trophy-crocodile

And then there's this discussion.

https://www.africahunting.com/threads/hunting-crocodile.218/

There was more than one gator displaced while I worked on this as lead process design engineer for the section to produce jet turbine fuels (not rocket science but jet science) and commercial kerosene for home heating, and I don't know any details about their ultimate fates. I don't remember hearing anything about treble hooks though. No baiting naturally.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_04be809a-1393-5b9c-871c-3d82158580dd.html

RayAtkinson · Jun 2, 2020

Id stick with the std Hornady Interlock and void the SSTs as they are soft even on deer, but effective on deer, but not on elk...Lots of ranchers and there kids locally and in Wyoming used the 25-06 on elk for years, probably still do, and the used Nosler 120 gr partitions almost to the man and handloaded...but about any bullet properly place behind the shoulder will kill a bull elk, but you have no room for error..

MS 9x56 · Jun 9, 2020

IdaRam said:
+1 On this.
My opinion, .25 cal SST is way too lightly constructed for big game, especially elk. Much better varmint bullet.
TTSX, Partition or A-Frame are much better choices.

I have used the 117 SST in a 250-3000 at about 2600 fps. At this speed they perform very well mushrooming just like the add shows. My son used them on deer in his 25 06 but they were too explosive destroying much meat. This at 3150 fps.

RayAtkinson · Jun 9, 2020

One can kill an elk or any animal with about any caliber, I killed deer with a 22 and elk with a 25-35 carbine at some point in my early life..Any caliber will work if you apply it properly..Today I use the 30-06, 338, even my 375 Ruger ( a favorite elk rifle of mine).

With a 25-35, you get within a 100 yards and place the shot behind the shoulder or in the shoulder, the long 117 gr. bullet will penetrate and do the job, the downside is you will have to be ready to turn down shots that would be easy with a 338 for instance..Same with the 22 LR on deer, 25 yards and two quick shot behind the shoulder works everytime, I fed a fencing crew of 20 in Mexico on the whitetail and mule deer on my dads leased ranch plus deer for the Forestals and traded deer for quail in Boquillas..

From a hunting standpoint today and guided by law and common since, we use a proper gun for big game guided by law and we have a lot of leeway on range, use enough gun is the name of the game and rightly so..enough gun is no more than common since, otherwise your playing tricks to prove a ridiculas point..

That said, the 25-06 is a second rate elk rifle and a excellent deer rifle for most folks...but with elk, its a 200 yard elk rifle and probably best for a experienced hunter, it will do the job but its anything but a proper elk rifle..That proper elk rifle starts with a 308, 7x57, 270 and 30-06 IMO..but to each his own and whats legal..

steve white · Jun 9, 2020

It kills all out of proportion to it's perceived size!

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