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After reboring it to 404 Jeff, everything

Glad someone bought this one before I saw it. My wife would have not been pleased at all

Well, yea, that's the answer. It isnt all that fun to talk about though! Im not worried about ruger turning a profit, I just want what I want.

458 win mag would be a drop in. Just a different reamer and broach. Its a bit of a head scratcher why they haven't offered it. They're allowing winchester to completely corner the sub-$2000 big bore market.

Didn't ruger say they were losing money on that product line?

Absolutely, but i dont think the jeff would fit in that action without significant modification. .458 win mag would however drop right in

I want a ruger guide gun in .458 win mag.

Not in my experience. I wore mine for less than a year before it was chewed up. Its still legible but it's scratched up pretty badly.

Not arguing, just a data point. My 2018 model 70 is to my eye, flawless. Hopefully this run of them is well done. Unfortunately, im in the middle of moving, so hopefully I can catch a .458 on the next run

Interested? Yes. Able to purchase without sending wife into ballistic rampage over "the budget?" Not a chance. Good luck. This is a great deal.

Its not a thing in the way weatherby used to pitch it. There is definitely a temporary wound cavity and a permanent one that results from a bullet going fast and encountering resistance, and shrapnel damage from bones and bullet pieces that result in internal nastiness. I think sometimes you...

That's a goodun!

Buffalo bore lists their 500gr load at 1600fps from an 18" barrel. If it actually picked up 50 fps per inch than you could get to about 1900 from a 24" barrel but i doubt thats the case. Standing by what I said, those numbers in the OP seem very optimistic for such a small case.

Those velocities are very generous compared to buffalo bores published speeds, which are 1,650ish from what I see at a glance. I think a 500gr .5" bullet over 2,000 fps is poison for anything that walks but I'm skeptical of reports of that much speed from such a short case.

Well thats all that really matters. Ill echo what's been said in here, Both are great.

Sooooooooooooo Are we gonna talk about how .338 win mag is the right answer or not????

I've found them to be more accurate closer to max load, probably just because they are so slow at the lighter charges that they probably have stability problems. Trail boss is pure magic with cast bullets. I wish I had bought 20 pounds of it when it first came out. I find myself using it way...

Thanks @thoma018. I didn't know about this thread. Thoma18 is A+ people. USPS faboozled the shipping while I was out of town for work and he was more patient than I would have been.

That's rolling. My .338 win mag 230gr loads are 2800ish from a 26" barrel.

I've never seen them in stock in 338 anywhere that I can recall.

Trailboss is the ultimate but good luck finding it. That and some 200gr sierra 38-55 bullets make a .375 h&h into a literal pop gun. H4895 reduced loads are fun as well. Most manuals have loads listed for that 200gr sierra bullet.

Usually a garmin instinct tactical Not the coolest thing going, but it is immensely practical. The time is always dead nuts correct, battery lasts about 20 days, gives me GPS tracking if I want it. I have a nice automatic but the Garmin usually comes along for serious work.

Just a rebarrel to .404 Jeff if someone were so inclined, correct?

Mine is often buried in stuff so thick that you cannot see either the sky or the ground. The only time it's really a problem is in small totally enclosed deer stands. And man is it ever fun to pile drive deer with it

It looked like that man could have used some real mountain hiking boots. You can tell Ben is intentionally following game trails even when trying to set up for a shot and he looks like he could probably chase down and tackle a buffalo if he had to.

Done deal. Thank yall

I want my answer to be .375 h&h and 6.5x55. I know .375 h&h is the king of world wide practicality, and I've killed a pile of game with the 6.5x55 as a young man. Sitting back and thinking objectively, it has to be .338 win mag, for me. I havent been to Africa yet. I don't guide grizzly hunts...

A good push feed will aboslutely be more reliable than a shoddy CRF. It isn't black and white. Functionally, a crf action that allows the extractor to snap over the rim in the chamber only gives you the advantage of double-feed protection and slight bit more bite on the rim than a push feed...

In terms of profits and losses, it probably does. It costs money to maintain the supplies and tooling and knowledge on staff to make stuff. They have to turn a profit. If your widgets arent selling at the price it takes to make a profit, you gotta find a different widget to sell. The reality is...

I always liked the look of those actions but I'm not a fan of 700-style triggers which unfortunately is what nearly all boutique "custom" actions are made for. That always gave me pause with that action and kept me from commiting to a build. I elected to get a new production model 70, which has...

Springfield 1903 is an excellent action design. It'd be awesome to have a commercially mass produced 1903 on the market. Unfortunately with the cost of manufacturing, I don't think we'll see CRF mainstream again. Ruger and Winchester will hopefully always be options as they currently exist...

.22lr That's kind of a cop out answer though. Centerfire only, .338 win mag

Big bores are never going to gain in popularity substantially. Rifle and ammo companies are running on the McKinsey model now. Make what moves. Inventory is a curse word now. Slow moving product will always be made in batch runs from now on if made at all.

Yep, looks like a pile of them got shipped out the factory lately. I know they'd never make it in .458 because it would tank the .416 sales, but a guy can dream. Shame too. The .416 makes a lot of sense. It and the .375 ruger render a lot of older belted stuff obsolete, at least from a...

I wish they'd start building those guide guns in .458 wm. Its a very well designed rifle.

I always read how nasty is supposedly is. Worse than a .375, horribly violent, etc. I don't know where that reputation got started. I had a lightweight .375 once, and that was violent. The .338 is certainly sporty but I have shot mine 40 times from the bench in one day before. I'd have needed...

Seems to be plenty of demand for them. The only reason I have this rifle is because I couldn't find a new .458

Sold pending funds Apologies for the slow replies guys, I wasn't expecting get ambushed.

No, I did not buy it new. I should have mentioned, will ship in a cheap plastic rifle case.

Gonzales area I travel to new orleans and lafayette often for work.

I hope so. I just ordered about $3,500 worth of boat parts so I need to get this down the road before my wife finds out! I got a fair deal on it when I bought it, that's what I have in it. Hopefully someone grabs it and properly uses it instead of flipping it for a profit.

It was clearly a safe queen. My rifles typically look far worse than this after one season with me. It has that kind of trashy new haven hot glue bedding job in it which doesn't look great when it's out of the stock, but appears to be fine. Stock was a little loose when I got it but I took it...

I am looking to sell my new haven built model 70 classic super express .375 h&h CRF. It is in exceptionally good shape. Basically a catch and release for me. I bought it last year and have only fired some light trail boss loads through it and have not hunted with it. Boat broke, need boat parts...

The coolest thing about .35 whelen is that it was designed specifically so it would be easy to make from recycled .30-06 brass. Its an very well thought out caliber.

Understandable. At least it doesn't suffer from being grossly overbore. Itd definitely be cooler if it was .338 h&h

I'm probably the only one dragging a 26" barrel .338 win mag around Louisiana. Had a revelation a few years back. I own the thing for elk hunting and I like it a lot. Why not just shoot everything with it?

When I finally get the chance to go to Africa, I'm going with a .338 and a .458

Id take them at adjusted prices. Being able to buy a brand spanking new Swedish 1896 for a few hundred bucks would be fantastic. Same for the 98's, 1903's, etc. Those old military bolt actions were wonderfully reliable and fairly accurate.

Just zero the rifle to whatever it says on the box of ammo, convert the drops to MOA or MIL (whatever the scope is) and figure out the correct holds based off the reticles' dimensions. That'll get you banging steel at 500 yards. The subtensions themselves will work out to some odd ranges, but...