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  1. shakari

    Flying with Guns through England

    All airlines worldwide are bound by the Air Navigation Order Carriage of Dangerous Goods Act (amongst others) that was originally formulated at the end of WWII....... Amongst many other things, the Act forbade carriage of any calibre firearm that had ever been adopted as an official military...
  2. shakari

    Your Libation of Choice...

    A nice mug of Earl Grey tea with milk & no sugar then later, a glass or three of any Islay malt whisky with water (NOT ice)
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    Black or Blue Wildebeest

    I agree that both are totally nuts..... they really are doolally tat but my advice would be to wait and see what chances you get and only decide which to take when you've got boots on the ground. From a trophy measurer's point of view, the blue is a much better choice because the black is a...
  4. shakari

    Buffalo in SA?

    Some good advice there: I hunted these (Pongola GR) areas on & off for more than 20 years & you won't be disappointed should you decide to hunt there. If you do, I'd recommend you also take nyala because I doubt there's a finer area anywhere in the country for them. There are also a fair...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Brickburn It's not very often you'll see a comment from me that's less than ultra polite and if there had been a problem, I'm sure a mod of some description would have communicated with me. I was trying to shed informed light and not heat on the debate and I reckon I've done that for the...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Chris You won't offend me bwana....... and do I have my own agenda? - You bet your arse I do. It's to ensure the next generation & the generations that comes after gets the chance to do what I've done, go where I've been & see what I've seen........ and as I've said previously, I firmly...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    That's one statement I can't argue with...... LOL
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    Dreaming-What would you do if?

    Mate, I spent a lot of my life in Africa so ANY degree of cold is cold for me! LOL
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    Dreaming-What would you do if?

    I guess it's different for me because I've done a fair bit in Africa........ so I'd like to go somewhere (preferably not too cold!) and hunt a BIG bear!
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Phil At the risk of breaking my own rule about making it personal: That attitude & indeed some others here prove yet again what's wrong with the industry & sport. You don't care about what's right or wrong. All you care about is getting the trophy on the wall at any cost & milking the...
  11. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    The vast majority of captive bred lion hunts are pretty much as I described or a variation of such & very few indeed (if any) that have any kind of significant wilding period at all & before anyone gets their knickers in a twist about my blowing the gaffe instead of being all secret squirrel...
  12. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    I don't think so mate. LOL!
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco I've also sent clients home without their trophies & am not at all ashamed of that. I'd much rather do that than send him home with a trophy that he took unfairly or unethically. Many years ago, I was posting (elsewhere) on this very same subject & I received an email from the then...
  14. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Phil you're missing those subtle differences I mentioned. I haven't insulted individuals but I have said what I think of people who partake of this practice. Actually, I've been very polite about that. You certainly wouldn't want to hear my real opinion! However, if individuals think the cap...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Norwegianwoods The problem with higher prices and longer wilding periods is the hunt would have to sell for something in the region of US$50K and for that, you can have a proper wild lion hunt and of course, it's also a massive temptation for the outfitter to ignore the wilding period (which...
  16. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Spike Thanks buddy....... think I've done it now. Adrian The most common practice is to have the lion in an enclosure then separate it from any others, dart it, translocate it to the new area give it the antidote, bugger off quick and then the shooter comes in a few hours or at most a...
  17. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Bill, Anyone who shoots such a lion isn't hunting it, they're simply shooting it and therefore the act isn't a hunt it's a shoot and therefore they're not hunters, they're shooters. Simple. I'm not labelling it wrong because I don't agree with it, I'm labelling it wrong because it's...
  18. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco, I agree that lion quotas may well be cut but I personally don't see how that will achieve anything at all any more than shooting captive bred lions in RSA would affect wild lion populations because the problem with declining wild lion populations isn't anything to do with hunting. It's to...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Marius The reason I win is as I said: No matter how you dress it up or try to cloud the issue, this practice is disgracefully wrong and if it's wrong, it ain't right and it never will be. Which is why the pro canned lion shooting side of the debate refuse to answer the simply question; Do...
  20. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    There's absolutely no merit, no justification, no good conservation principle & no good ethic in shooting a newly released captive bred lion and there never will be. The only things such an act achieve are: Obscene profit for the PH & outfitter. A trophy to decorate the trophy room for...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Those arguments don't wash at all........ and are yet again cheap attempts to cloud the issue. One thing has nothing to do with the other and neither justify how it is ethical to shoot a newly released lion. I ask yet again; How can it be ethical to shoot a captive bred lion that has been...
  22. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Marius A) If you think it's not ethical to shoot newly released PG, why do you think it is ethical to shoot newly released lions? B) Your answer doesn't address the issue at all so I see no point in responding to that. The question was; Do you agree or disagree that it's ethical to shoot...
  23. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Norwegianwoods I agree absolutely about you tube, antis & the non hunting public and even to a large extent with what you say about wilding periods. Unfortunately, the costs involved in having even a single lion on your game farm for even 6 months are astromonical which is why landowners...
  24. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco OK. Let me rephrase the questions: Do you agree or disagree that it's ethical to shoot newly released PG species that do not know the terrain and escape routes etc? Do you agree or disagree that it's ethical to shoot newly released lions that do not know the terrain and escape...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco Your last post is another cheap attempt to cloud the issue. No-one here says it's OK to shoot any newly released animal but let's reverse the issue for a moment........ You seem to acknowledge as we all do that it's wrong to shoot a newly released kudu etc........ so perhaps you can...
  26. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    I might be in favour of wilding periods if they were long enough and if they were enforced but the truth is RSA is a country that took a decade to make it's own (new) firearms act to work anywhere near efficiently, can't run it's own judiciary, can't even begin to operate an annual vehicle...
  27. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Sorry for the delay chaps. I had to go out and one thing led to another glass of vinho as it often does here. LOL I agree it's utterly wrong to shoot any newly released animal but to bring other species into this debate is nothing more than an inefficient and cheap attempt to cloud the issue...
  28. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco Is now a good time to point out that when the spineless moron Minister Van Schalkwyk introduced the Dangerous animals Act or whatever it was called a few years ago, (as I mentioned earlier) he removed lion from the list of dangerous animals at the very last minute due to threat of...
  29. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco If you think they are the same, perhaps you can elaborate on that & tell us in what way(s) they are?
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco I fail to see how you can think the two are the same in any way because they're very obviously totally different.
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Mate, It's two completely separate & different issues & we're talking lions here not PG so to try to bring the two issues together is wrong which is why the lion breeders tried to do that very thing in an attempt to cloud the lion issue. AFAIC, Van Schalkwyk had the chance to put the...
  32. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Jaco As I see it, that's comparing apples to oranges. Plains game species are mostly born & spend their lives in the area & therefore know the terrain & escape routes etc intimately. Most are herd animals & will follow the herd to avoid danger. Sure, occasional translocations take place but...
  33. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Phil You raise some good points. For me, enough is when hunting stops being hunting for the thrill of hunting as per Sher Jung's description and becomes simply shooting to furnish a trophy room. To me, a captive bred and newly released lion (whether drugged or not) can never be a fair...
  34. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Phil To me, behaving properly is things like only hunting wild animals & not captive bred etc. Also to think twice before posting things like short clips of just kill shots on you tube because most non hunters simply fail to understand what they're about & by misunderstanding, become anti...
  35. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Bill, You'll notice I have the good manners not to attack individual people for shooting a canned lion. All I do is express my honest opinion of the act & those that take part in it & there's a subtle difference........ I haven't for example made a single public statement on the Bachman...
  36. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    What you appear to be saying is we should all drop our standards to the lowest common denominator......... well fcuk that for a lark Bill. I'll never drop mine. As for outfitters policing themselves........ don't bet on it. History has proved time & time & time again that there will always be...
  37. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    The two populations are entirely different & have absolutely no connection whatsoever with each other so no. However, I'm firmly convinced that the shooting of captive bred animals is immensely harmful to true (African) sport trophy hunting & that the antis will one day use it as a club to...
  38. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Just in case you missed that post. Here's the cost problem & I'm sure you'll appreciate I've erred on the kind side on my calculations:
  39. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Marius You're missing my point again. I didn't say they could never become self sustaining. I said they don't get a chance to become self sustaining because no landowner can afford to have self sustaining lions on a game farm for any significant period of time because of the costs in...
  40. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Marius Are you suggesting that any significant number of SA farms have wild lions that just wander in & out of them....... if not, then perhaps you could please elaborate on you comment? I'll bet a pound to a pinch of the smelly brown stuff that there are VERY few truly wild & unhabituated...
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Marius I don't understand your point. A lion is always a lion & therefore (assuming it's not drugged) always dangerous but a newly released pen bred one will never have been self sustaining, never know the area or escape routes & will always be habituated to people & vehicles. Therefore...
  42. shakari

    Need a little help with my website

    Works fine for me here in Portugal mate. :)
  43. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    I don't have the time or the patience but if anyone does, they can find most of the RSA game ordinances here: N/West Ordinance
  44. shakari

    Book safari through PH or Agent

    I don't think it's particularly important whether you book through a PH, outfitter or agent but it is VITALLY important to book through a GOOD, HONEST, ETHICAL & RELIABLE PH, outfitter or agent. There are all kinds of people in all parts of the industry so don't make the mistake of thinking...
  45. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Don't bet on that. I've never gauged a man on rank, title, fortune or experience. I judge them on attitude & we seem to both think the same way. ;)
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    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    It's always important to choose your PH & outfitter with great care on any hunt because not every PH suits every client & vice versa but it's especially important on a DG hunt & even more important on the sort of hunt being discussed here. (no matter where the venue)
  47. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    You can track them in some other places such as Masailand Tanzania where the soil is similar to talcum powder, but it's not easy and success rates are very low...... and to be entirely honest, the PH needs to be very choosey who he does it with (both staff and clients) because all it takes is...
  48. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Any lion breeder that tells you a lion in a fenced area has been there for anything like 6 months is misleading you if only because of the costs involved. If you allow 6 months at $100 per day & then add on 10% to allow for an occasional kudu or sable etc, you'd be up to around the $20K mark...
  49. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    Martin That's not true. The proposed law did say a wilding period of 6 months but the breeder's association threatened to sue both the minister (van schalkwyk) and the government if the law was introduced so the spineless van schalkwyk removed lion from the list of 'dangerous animals' that...
  50. shakari

    Lion - stalk vs. bait

    There's more to it than just the size of the land. The major questions about fenced areas is how long has the animal been there and how habituated to people & vehicles is it? If it's only been there a day or two then it doesn't know the area and escape routes etc so even if no drugs are...
 
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