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After enough time I actually quit testing Round Nose bullets, they were just doing way too much damage to the range and the bullet boxes. But that was after testing 100s if not 1000s. I have many a mark on my indoor range from RN Solids! LOL.......... Below are some samples of some of the RN...

After enough time I actually quit testing Round Nose bullets, they were just doing way too much damage to the range and the bullet boxes. But that was after testing 100s if not 1000s. I have many a mark on my indoor range from RN Solids! LOL.......... Below are some samples of some of the RN...

After enough time I actually quit testing Round Nose bullets, they were just doing way too much damage to the range and the bullet boxes. But that was after testing 100s if not 1000s. I have many a mark on my indoor range from RN Solids! LOL.......... Below are some samples of some of the RN...

This is meplat size and nose profile starting to have effect. In my opinion, only straight line penetration counts. After that it is not predictable. All FN Solids are not created equal. When it comes to velocity, nose profiles have a large effect. Some Nose Profiles are very...

In 458 caliber they sent 480 gr Solids and expanding, and in 416 they sent 340 gr Solids and expanding. I tested in two different 458 rifles, 458 B&M EX and standard 458 B&M. And in 416 I used one of my 416 B&Ms.

In 458 caliber they sent 480 gr Solids and expanding, and in 416 they sent 340 gr Solids and expanding. I tested in two different 458 rifles, 458 B&M EX and standard 458 B&M. And in 416 I used one of my 416 B&Ms.

I tested 4 bullets in each rifle. In the 458 B&M EX all 4 were stable and straight to 65-66 inches. This is very good, and a lot of penetration in .458 caliber. More than enough to do any mission asked. After this they lost stability and were unpredictable as to what they would do.

In the 458 B&M I only had one box set up, and actually lost some of the bullets in the berm after exits. The only one I recovered lost stability or I would not have recovered it either. Again, straight penetration to 65".

The 416 Peregrine was not as successful as the 458 version.

I am also a lever fan, and I like that 130 gr ESP Bullet, and particular using the solid side. ESP... Enhanced System Projectile, for those not familiar. These are rather odd bullets, but they do work. One end is a #13 Solid and the other end is a Hollow Point Raptor. You can load them either...

I am also a lever fan, and I like that 130 gr ESP Bullet, and particular using the solid side. ESP... Enhanced System Projectile, for those not familiar. These are rather odd bullets, but they do work. One end is a #13 Solid and the other end is a Hollow Point Raptor. You can load them either...

I am also a lever fan, and I like that 130 gr ESP Bullet, and particular using the solid side. ESP... Enhanced System Projectile, for those not familiar. These are rather odd bullets, but they do work. One end is a #13 Solid and the other end is a Hollow Point Raptor. You can load them either...

We took some RN FMJ and gave them a hollow base, moving center of gravity forward, but it did not help at all. Remember, with Solids, they are Front End drive once terminal penetration starts in aqueous medium/tissue, and RN is not stable, there is nothing you can do to make a RN Solid 100%...

This Rhino seems to be close in design........ But mind you, small tweaks in these solids, ones that require measurement to be known can make a big difference.. So appearances can mean nothing with a solid. And keep in mind, 58" of straight line penetration is more than enough to accomplish any...

You can see this #13 Solid hit some heavy bone on a buffalo distorting the nose a good bit. Regardless it still managed to complete the mission.

Same bullet used on a hippo, one of these contacted some heavy bone, the other two did not..........................

I have shot buffalo with various different copper solids and had those bullets distort as much or more in most cases, but can't find a photo of those right now. Either way, Copper or Brass, both are superior to FMJ in this area.

DWB, those are good looking bullets. Meplat looks to be proper size, and the edges have a nice radius. I have no doubt those would do very well.

If you can be precise enough yes. I don't have that capability here, and had exactly the same thought in 2006. I did it with a bench grinder, and measured and looked half way good. But testing they were crap. During terminals they were even worse than RN. LOL...... I did not have...

Todays hunters are truly blessed with a large variety of excellent bullets. There are many good bullets out there and you will hear me talk most about the Cutting Edge Bullets and the North Forks. Well, fact is, yes I am a bit prejudiced to these two companies. Both worked very close with...

And in all fairness some examples of Properly Designed Solids..................... And could go on and on, but I think you might be beginning to understand.........................Knowing some of these things, what would you choose?

Nhoro No, never heard of Charles Hayley. The difference in these tests is the bone and the planks. If one tested the bullets in total wood, say 1 inch boards. Then the RN and FN would all be basically the same, the RN would not veer off course. While in some cases, the bone and planks...

You might take a Hydro in the chamber, and follow up with the 130 Solid ESP? That would be a good combo I think........

Absolutely, give them a go and see what comes up. I think they will accomplish what you need in 30/30.

I was asked in 2015 to test some of the Peregrine bullets by Peregrine. They sent .458 and .416 caliber. At that time I measured the meplat size and it was a bit shy, which I told them at the time. The ones I had came in at 52%, which is not as good as I would have liked to see. But...

Yes, Ben, that is very odd. But I have seen some wild things in the field as well. I would think at those velocities and that bullet it would go end to end on buffalo unless it hit bone. I also suspect that smaller calibers may not be as stable as larger caliber bullets as well. Plenty...

If I missed anything or anyone, don't hesitate to let me know and ask again please.

Good Morning Ben, it has been awhile since we had a chat, good to see you out there and continuing to do some shooting....... Assuming .308 caliber, how is the penetration on that bullet? I tested a few .308s a few years ago, but never been to the field with any. Good to hear of you!

Good Morning Pauly! I know how this stuff drives you crazy...... Sorry! HEH..... Hey, they let me in, what do you expect?.................. I hope you don't run out of drink! Paul and I did a lot of bullet testing together.................and we had one hell of a good time doing it...

Good Morning One Day. HOW CORRECT YOU ARE. You hit the nail on the head my friend and what has caused many issues with Solids for the last 15 + years. Let me start by saying I use Winchester M70 Control Feed guns. Since most feeding issues will be with Bolt Guns, that is where we will...

Good morning Dewald. I thought I had tested some of these back in the days, but can't find anything on them. Tested Rhino and Peregrine here, and I was sure Dzombo, but can't find photos of them, and I may have had some and never got around to them. I will continue to look for that. The...

Good Morning Wyatt. Not 100% sure exactly what you are asking, but since you distinguish between copper and brass, I assume "Construction & Material" factor. In soft medium and or tissue brass will start to flow at 2900-3000 fps impacts, and copper just a bit less than that 2500-2600 fps...

Yeah, one of them had something to say the other day because I posted some photos of my personal rifles and it had the B&M Buffalo Card in the photo......... Does not matter, I have nothing to sell anyone, and don't care one way or the other. However, if anyone has any questions or help with...

In 2014 my youngest son was along for our last trip to Zimbabwe. He got a chance to shoot a troublesome elephant that was causing issues in the village. He had been using his 475 Super Short, a CEB 350 gr #13 Solid at 2200 fps. It was a medium size bull, at 10 yards side brain. Compete...

Absolutely. I used to do near the same thing back in the day with 358 STA. There are many many reasons to have a good solid along on a hunt, and NO REASON not to.

Yes, and you can use either 450 gr CEB Solids or the 450 North Forks (new design) and you will never need anymore than that. You can easy run those to 2400 fps and they are a hammer. I shot broadside elephant with one in 458 B&M at 2200 fps and it passed completely through. Also used on...

I check in sometimes, not very often, but once and awhile. This one I could not resist. Maybe it will help some folks really understand what is going on with Solids and why. Things have come a long way since we began our investigation of Solids in 2006. 1000s of tests, 1000s of bullets...

There are 8 Absolute Known Factors for Solid Penetration and are as follows in Order of Importance..... #1 Meplat Percentage of Caliber Meplats that attain 65% Meplat of Caliber are terminally stable.... Above 70% Meplat bullets remain stable, however depth of penetration begins to decrease...

Mine is a dream to hunt with, and without doubt is one of the finest little rifles I have ever gone to the field with. It came in extremely light for wood stocked gun at 7.5 lbs no scope. It handles incredibly well. Overall length 38 inches. Running the 450 CEB Solids, 420 Raptors, and...

In 2013 I hunted with one of my 18 inch 458 B&Ms in Zimbabwe. I had 3 bullets shooting to the same or very close to same POI at 50 yards. One of those bullets was at the time the new 250 Socom from Cutting Edge. In the 458 B&M it was running at or around 2950 fps. It was a hammer on...