What's the deal with stainless barrels

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I just came across a stainless Howa 30-06 on an online shop. I know the Alaskan hunters like them, but they aren't popular here in South Africa.

I have frequently heard that there are a couple of downsides to a SS barrel especially that it wears faster then standard blue. And that they still rust. So for those in the know and who own them. Whats the deal with them?
 
I really can't answer the technical questions about longevity but I did get my then 12-year-old son a stainless Browning A-bolt with a walnut stock in .30-06. It was less than $1,000 including the Nikon scope but just about everyone that sees it for the first time comments and/or asks questions about it. The stainless and walnut combination really does get attention. One other thing, it is a very accurate rifle. I know there a lot of variation in production grade rifles and that some are just more accurate than other but it does prove then when done right a stainless steel rifle can flatten a gnat.

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@Elton,

i live in alaska so am a bit biased. stainless is awesome. yes it rusts, but really slows down the process. blued guns that would become inoperable in a week or two, being stainless are just fine. still need to oil or wax them once in a while, but they resist corrosion much better.

bongo hunters will lament their beautiful rifles with fine wood and blueing becoming wrecked in the course of the hunt. that just wont happen with a stainless and laminate/synthetic stock. some think the stainless/syn rifles are ugly. beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and i have come to appreciate the functionality of the stainless rifle.

re: shooting out the barrel faster, i am not sure if that is true or not, but, if one cared for the bore i suspect the ss rifle will last at least as long as the blued and if the caliber is medium or larger it would never get shot out.

even in africa, there is no downside to the ss rifle. ugly; maybe but always functional. that is a trade off i can live with.
 
Thanks, i honestly like the look of the stainless and black synthetic stock, i view rifles as tools and as such expect them to work. I don't mind nicks and scratches because its a tool. I can admire beautiful rifles but again would not want to take them into the bush because i know what would happen. But all the negative comments on SS just got me thinking. We dont have wet weather like you (an assumption made from youtube videos) and we have summer rainfall in Africa so when hunting season is here it is extremely dry, but i do find the functionality of SS appealing
 
Years ago when I purchased my .340 Weatherby I got it in SS, my plan at that time was to spend quite a bit of time up in British Colombia and Alaska. Since then I have forgotten about Alaska but spend 10 days up in BC chasing bears where it rained on us every day, I myself lived in my rain gear. All I did to my rifle when we got back to the cabin was to wipe it down with a oiled rag. It never did show any signs of rust where my guides pistol a blued 44 magnum has a little bit of rust on it every day that had to be cleaned off when we returned to a dry location.

I also took that SS rifle to South Africa on my first safari and it will be returning with me this coming June for my second one. It is a tack driver.
 
I wrote it on AH somewhere but if I win stupid money in the lottery I'm going to commission a SSSS (stainless steel side-by-side) in .375 H&H with both a walnut and black composite stock. I'll take the walnut stock to Africa and the composite to Alaska...
 
actually,
i have always wished for a stainless double rifle. o/u would be fine with me. it would be in a 375 flanged or 450-400, laminated wood stock with a scope that detached. but for the 20K that it would cost me, i would already own it!!
 
I strongly favor the looks of blued steel and wood stocks.
But I do live in Alaska soooo...

... my go-to gun is my Marlin MXLR; it's stainless. I bought it because after reading about the .338 Marlin cartridge, I wanted a rifle so chambered. I got mine at a good price and the rest is history. I don't know about the shooting out barrel part, but I echo what others have said about stainless staving off the dangers of rust. Can it rust? Sure; I've dealt with small stuff at times. I don't completely neglect any of my guns, but if I'm out for a week or two and it's raining I don't give rust a moment's thought, at all, while I'm hunting. And mine did go to Africa with me this past May, and did exceedingly well on plains game. And while I like blued, it does add sparkle to photos.

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I think SS on a wood stock would look quite handsome but, so far the only SS I own are my Smith and Wessons
 
Beyond the fact the every factory rifle will be a little different from another, SS barrels are generally considered more accurate, but have a shorter lifespan. I have not tried any type of side by side testing, and anecdotal results would be pointless anyways due to the inherent differences in each factory rifle. I believe that if true testing were done, which would likely need several dozen of each model and barrel combination to help negate individual “duds”, it would likely be a negligible difference in improved accuracy and negligible difference in shortened barrel life.
I think the real difference is the all weather characteristics of SS versus classic appeal/cost of blued.
 
I started shouting stainless when I was running a boat out of Valdez. It will rust up pretty quickly in the salt and I don’t care for the appearance. All of my stainless rifles are Arctic or Teflon coated satin black which eliminates the rust issue and improves the appearance.
 
I have done a bit of reasearch, for purpose of making an article on barrels.
There are two basic materials to make barrels: chrome molybden steel and inox (stainless steel).

Inox as general will be type inox 416, martensitic type.
Because of this material structure, it is generally accepted that such type of materials can be best polished and lapped, significantly better then chrom moly. It is also beleived that this highly polished surface of barrel interior reduces fouling of barrel. For this reason, best long range shooters, prefer exclusively stainless steel barrels, deeply beleiving that smoothness of material will give them best consistency in long strings of shots with minimum fouling.

(of course, it goes without saying that stainless is more resiliant to rust, and weather conditions, as well as extreme as extreme spread of temperatures, especially cold)
Howeever even stainless, is not 100% rust proof. Rifle has to be maintained, like any other rifle

Barrels can be made in general in three accepted ways: hammer forging, button rifling and cut rifling.
For stainless steel 416 barrels hammer forging is difficult, so in case that stainless steel barrel is hammer forged, most probably will be type 410. For button rifling, and cut rifling 416 can be. So 410, different material for hammer forging is possibly a compromise, but I am not sure of actual differneces between 416 and 410. It could be also that factories producing hammer forged barrels for their rifle, also import stainless steel barrels from other makers to fit in separate assembly line, if this material makes them difficult to produce by hammer forging.

But....
But, if a good hammer forged chrome moly barrel can produce 1/4 od 1/3 moa groups (with chosen factory ammo) , and if we talk about hunting, i wouldnt be bothered with accuracy issue.

Comapring three types of barrel production: hammer forging, button rifling, and cut rifling:
It is generally beleived (I am not using word proven) that hammer forged barrels will last the longest, and cut rifle barrels will have the shortest longevity. (then button rifled barrel could be in the middle with this estimate). So, in this way you can also look at stainlees steel barrels becasue 416 most probably will not be hammer forged, so if barrel is cut, will hav a bit shorter life span.

(top long range shooters prefer cut rifled barrels, and button rifled barrels, and hunters, genereally dont care)

Additional way to look at it: as mentioned, stainless steel is sweetheart of long range shooters, often using hot loads, and shooting long strings on a match or training in addition to having barrel burning calibers. Of course, such abuse will shorten barrel life significantly. (one barrel per season?) But this is not average rifle usage for hunters.

All in all: if I am resident hunter in Alasca, or frequent hunter in tropical rain forest, or top long range shooter, I would consider having a stainless steel barrel. If I am just hunting, in normal dry or moderately humid conditions, chrome moly will do just fine for me.

Also, one more point: stainless look fancy, especially when is fluted. One more thing to consider, but it has nothing to do with ballistics.

And another point, fitting the iron sights - i dont remember seeing stainless steel barrel with iron sights.
 
Did you look into polygonally rifles barrels when you were doing your research. I have two, both black hole barrels, both incredibly accurate and very low fouling.
 
I had to do a lot of searching, but I found this thread I remembered reading about what a PH really wants his client to bring to Africa and what they should leave behind. Shiny stainless barrels (along with shiny stocks and light-colored clothes) are mentioned in the leave-behind list:
 
The thing is that you take what you have. No reason to run out and purchase a new rifle to head to Africa with that you are unfamiliar with.
 

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