Zimbabwe Political Update

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  1. flatwater bill

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    Zim civil servants wanting to get paid in US dollars probably broke the negotiations. Otherwise their demands could have been met with the simple purchase of another copying machine and some paper. Seriously, failed states pose a real World threat. Africa has had their share, I hope Zim doesn't follow......at least until I am out of there. Closer to home, Nicaragua and Venz are close to collapse, and putting real stress on economic powerhouse Panama, and semi-failed state Mexico. Border crises may become much more common in the near future .......Best wishes to some great operators in Zim, hope it smooths out and 2019 is a good year.........FWB
     
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    an article from yesterday (Zimbabwe) news 24

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    While Zimbabwe was on fire, president Emmerson Mnangagwa was abroad telling the world it was open for business. The irony of preaching openness whilst the entire country was cut off from the whole world, is striking, writes Redi Tlhabi.

    I know a young Zimbabwean mother who works in Johannesburg. It is a tough and thankless job, cleaning a fancy gym; wiping the sweat from the exercise equipment, making sure every client has a fresh and crisp towel and that the floors, toilets and showers are pristine.

    I cannot say she loves her job. It is what it is. It puts food on the table and ensures that her children, who are being cared for by a relative back home, lack for nothing. But for her to achieve this most basic human endeavour, she has to live and work in South Africa – an often unwelcoming country.

    She puts up with the xenophobic, racist slurs; the condescending stereotypes, the disrespect, from young and old. She is uprooted and lives with the chilly winds of displacement. Her host country uses bureaucracy, documentation and inefficiency to punish her and remind her that she does not belong.

    By making her wait and wait and wait for processing, her status is akin to that of a stateless person. But this young mother battles through it because that is what she has to do. Her country, Zimbabwe, has nothing to offer.

    But three weeks ago, it offered her violence. Like many migrant labourers, she trekked home to prepare her children for the start of the new school year. She was proud because although she had not seen them for a year, she had a lot to show for her absence. Her labour had produced new, crisp school uniforms, stationery, toys, litres of cooking oil, jumbo packs of snacks, maizemeal, flower, rice, beans.

    She was proud. But all of this is now a distant memory. What she remembers are soldiers shooting dead a young man, right next to her. She remembers being pulled out of a moving car and being prevented from accessing public transport to return to work.

    The children could not attend school as soldiers shut them down, whilst brandishing machine guns that she had only ever seen on television. Weapons of war, aimed at innocent citizens who were tired, weary and fearful of the impact of a 150% fuel price increase. Their lives are already fragile and burdensome. The increase was their undoing.

    Any reasonable citizen would be angry at this steep increase, whatever the justification and rationale for it. But that is not what the paternalistic state expected. It wanted total obedience and acquiescence. It wanted total acceptance of its decisions, and not once felt the need to negotiate and cajole. The people had to trust the government and relent.

    When it could not achieve this, it exacted acceptance of this unfair increase by using brutal force; arresting and in some cases, murdering citizens. It did so behind closed doors. It shut down social media and imposed a blackout on the flow of information. The state did not want the world to witness its shameful acts.

    Why shut down communication channels if all you are doing is within the confines of the law and the frameworks of decency and fairness? It justifies this brutality by claiming opposition elements are destabilising the country and fuelling violence. The opposition does not command the army and has no authority to control borders, shut down schools and mow people to the ground.

    The army is still preventing people from moving freely. A government that has nothing to offer its people, is jeopardising the livelihoods of its citizens, knowing very well that it cannot absorb them into its non-existent labour market and lifeless economy.

    While the country was on fire, the president, Emmerson Mnangagwa, was abroad telling the world that Zimbabwe is open for business. The irony of preaching a message of openness whilst the entire country was cut off from the whole world, is striking!

    Mnangagwa eventually returned home, but it was too late, the crisis had long fermented and the dead were buried, struck by the bullets of his army. He promised to crack down on wanton violence, blaming everybody; citizens, opposition parties, community leaders, religious leaders, the youth, the army. This of course ensures that nobody actually takes accountability, nobody gets punished because all are responsible. A state of paralysis ensues.

    After blaming the entire citizenry, he added, "It is a betrayal of the new Zimbabwe." The "new Zimbabwe" looks very much like the Zimbabwe that was ruled and ruined by Robert Mugabe, with Mnangagwa by his side.

    The African Union has predictably shown no leadership, issuing lame platitudes. South Africa, whilst it cannot dictate to a sovereign country, can speak out and demand a respect for human rights, free speech and an end to violence. South Africa should have demanded that the Zimbabwean army vacate the border and allow the free movement of people, some of whom merely wanted to return to work. South Africa should have cared enough to reach out and hear the voices of ordinary people.

    The young mother slept in the bush for two days, with no food and water. She chose the bush, because it was safer than her home. Mnangagwa's army was knocking door to door, rounding up young people, accusing them of stirring up the violence.

    A government that fears its youth and shuts down social media because it does not like the resounding message, is not a government of the people.

    Mnangagwa tweeted, "Chaos and insubordination will not be tolerated." The people have been warned.

    - Redi Tlhabi is an award-winning author, journalist and talkshow host.

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    Sibanda,all over again.
     

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    But by gosh, they got rid of that damned "Colonialism". The world cheered. The Queen even posed with Robert Mugabe.
    Good article by Redi Tlhabi..........sadly, she mentioned "racism" again. Maybe its time to beat a different dead horse........Zimbabwe owns this one...FWB
     

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    The author preaches about decency and human rights, but doesn’t see how government controlled fuel prices is completely and totally inconsistent with that.
     

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    No place is perfect... but there is no place like home right? :whistle: At least whatever else they may call our President,, they don't call him "Little Potato".o_Oo_O:D:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     

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    That was affectionate though....
     
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    Little Potato? Somehow that’s got to reflect poorly on Idaho. I feel like I should be offended? :E Shrug:
     
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    Thank you for setting things straight! It is sad to see some of the B.S. that is being posted concerning Zimbabwe supposed mercs running around, Chinese and Russian troops hanging on the fringes, Russian Colony, burned soldiers? I guess I will have to take the two minute boat ride from Zimbabwe to Zambia to find out what is really happening here. We have enough real problems here, without posting "stuff" like this.
     
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    The problem I see is I have to believe you, or I have to believe your other Citizens. On FB today a ph office manager is posting about rampant rapes by soldiers and other atrocities, posting video, pictures, yet you say it’s fine. Maybe just a bit of rape and murder, just not under the mopane tree you’re under?

    Ringing endorsements don’t equal +1 in the pro column and reports of rape and murder -1, thus cancelling out.

    Just an aside, the one thing I resent most about Zim, a personal pet peeve of mine, is the phrase “making a plan”. That is bizarre Rhodesian speak for direct impulsive reaction to direct stimuli, it isn’t what the west calls a plan. A plan has contingencies, preparation for all outcomes, advanced risk mitigation strategies, alternatives, emergency provision, and a road to navigate the path forward.... zim has no plan. The PHs have no plan I’ve seen. The government has no plan. The phrase is an abhorrent use of the term.

    I mean no personal insult, but it’s just nonsense.

    Show me one improvement that suggests progress for anyone in Zim or any client to support “business as usual”.

    Has geopolitics improved?
    Have game numbers 0increased?
    Has safety?
    Have airports received their annual ATA certifications in increasing numbers?
    Have goods increased supply? Wages? Access to goods? Increased jobs?
    Has the educated populace increased?
    Are PHs returning to Zim or fleeing as refugees? (Another contacted me just today in North America)
    Has access to emergency anti venom increased?
    Has corruption reduced?
    Have more camps and safari areas opened?
    Has resource plunder reduced?
    Has the distance to go for fuel and tire repair reduced?
    Have emergency road repairs increased?
    Has freedom of the press increased?
    Has domestic air travel received IATA license?
    Have air travel options increased?
    Has a path to a land being given back occurred?
    Have the Chinese pillage of resources decreased?

    Any revolution takes only 3% of a population to transform a nation. A handful of American colonialists had a plan, made a real plan, and changed the world. Zim has no such plan. <13,000 rhodesians and their simpathizers aren’t enough to effect change in a nation of 14,000,000, even if every one of them would stand for change or die. The exodus is accelerating and the point of no return occurred in 2001. There is no plan. There is no way to “make a plan”.

    I say this assuming what you say is true and every other news bit is false...the data doesn’t lie even if the rape and murder and mayhem reports are all false.
     

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    She does see that.
    She is only afraid to sleep in the bush, when her words smell of provocation.
    I have almost weekly contact with my two (black) PHs via WhatsApp.
    Nobody shouts about this channel about the conditions in the country. The worst description so far has been the word "hard".
    A Dagga boy only stays unnoticed if he's careful.
    If ZANU rackets knock on your door and ask what you thought of the president, what would we say?
     
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    Thank you for the reply to my statement a statement that I stand by. As I stated we have enough real problems and you hit most of them right on the nail head. Some items are a bit debatable. I find it interesting that you would take such offense to the Afrikaner phrase, Boer Maken A Plan (my spelling may be off, my wife is the Afrikaner in the house. Yes the Rhodesians & Zimbabweans seem to use the phrase maybe to much, as Americans have theirs, some quite irritating to some foreigners. Such as saying "fake news" or "I live in the states"to a Citizen of Mexico, who also live in the states, no matter which side of the wall or border that they live on.

    As I remember American history that handful of founding fathers had a bit of help from almost a quarter million soldiers (about 50,000 at any one time), not to mention France. Maybe if Rhodesia had had a bit of help 40years ago from the west, including Ronald Reagan (one of U.S.A.'s greatest presidents) & Margaret Thatcher (one of the Britain's greatest Prime Ministers) things might have turned out different, instead they turned to someone else.

    As to what took place here and I do not deny that a atrocity took place it should never have taken place. As to what was published on social media, most not all was what I said B.S.. I do not know if my wife saved all of the "crap that circulated" on face book or whatever social media sites she looks at, but it really made for some good toilet reading, to bad it was not on paper, it could have been useful!

    For your information we do not spend our day sitting under a particular Mopane tree. The week that all of the stuff happened we were in Bulawayo. I had to run all over town getting supplies, Fuel, food, uniforms for rangers, .303 rifle for game scout, solar panels, pipe, bore hole pump, wire, beer, wine, car parts. Things that you cannot get in the bush be it Zimbabwe or Alaska. When we go to town we usually "make a plan" on what we are going to do. Now we have to find a more "politically correct" term for what we do.

    Our newly built camp suffered a terrible storm last Saturday night, so we "made a plan" to have it rebuilt in time for our next leopard hunter. I guess you will just have to let me know what the new politically correct term is for "make a plan" and don't forget "just now".

    No disrespect meant to any member of the AH community.

    Cheers,
     

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    I don't think "plan" meant you.
    But the ( not ) functioning state system in your homeland.
    I understand your concern to make negative statements public.
    Any critical vote about Zimb could lead to getting one booking less. Right now, every Dollar and Euro is more important than before.
    Rhodesia: You can't fight against the flow of time, even if you're x- times better than the others. A Marquis Lafayette like Washington had him, wouldn't have done you any good, but only prolonged the suffering of that time.

    Zimbabwe is still alive, because millions of black people, I emphasize millions of black people,we often keep them incompetent and lazy, work hard abroad ,often like slaves and send money to their homes, so that the families can exist.
    And by people like you.Without you, it would have been a minefield by now.
    All the best.
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    Thanks for your update, Lon. Absolutely no personal animus from me directed towards you at all, I'm just so frustrated at the State of Zim at this point, and frankly really worried for the people of Zim. I fear now might be the time to burst bubbles and say "get the hell out before the brown shirts come!". Be safe.

    Regarding the treasured phrase "making a plan" yes, its an idiosyncratic tick that it bothers me so much. I'm in the "planning" sort of business and things like "strategy", "risk mitigation", "alternative analysis", "Best alternative to no agreement" and the like all are part of the notion of making a plan. What a Zim person considers "making a plan" is exactly 100% as you defined it, going into town, nothing is available, now scramble in the moment to figure a way out of the immediate troubles by shifting course in the moment. We'd call that a "scramble", a "frantic plight", or "flying by the seat of one's pants"....Zim calls that "making a plan". While that might have worked on that day to find a bore hole pump, food and beverage, and diesel, that is not a winnable game for nation building and that's why I've lost hope, bring this up, and tell the good people of Zim to get the hell out.

    It reminds me of the time I asked a PH "what happens if someone in camp gets bit by a snake?" to which they responded "we'll make a plan". The correct answer I was looking for was an actual plan. A plan goes like this: a.) Review checklist of all available sources of antivenom. b.) clear local runway for emergencies. c.) notify local for-fee private planes of safari location in case of urgent evac. d.) sat text message or radio programmed with parks office contact and other emergency contacts. e.) emergency meds to sustain/extend life verified. f.) communication devices charged each day by 6am. g.) check-in with critical resources at camp arrival. etc. etc. <--- That is a plan, with procedures, contingencies, and process to content with problems before they arrive.

    "making a plan" is an oxymoron by its very definition and a symptom of an incurable problem with Zim. Plan is being used as a future tense verb, not a noun. Making is in the present tense. It's a phrase no Westerner would use outside of Zim. It's saying what do you do when sh*t hits the fan We begin considerations to plan for a solution. <---a little late in the process to not get screwed most of the time.

    I digress down this rabbit hole too far. Be safe. Be well. Bottom line: Make a plan ahead of time before you enact the plan and the plan will probably work. If you do it in response to direct stimuli in the moment, you'll be exterminated by someone that had a plan ahead of time against you and your kin.
     
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    Hi Rookhawk,

    Will that was a little milder! We feel the frustration every day, most people who know me know that I am a little to the right of "Attila the HUN".

    We know the problems and frustrations, they are real and we have to deal with them on a daily basis. You speak of the people that are leaving. I have had some friends and many acquaintances leave this beautiful country, almost all of them left not because they did not have a future, it was because their children would not have a future. I have a good friend who happens to be a black African, his son is completing his third year of university in China, why China? He could not get his son into a university in any western country at least not with his $200.oo a month salary from National Parks!! What will his son do when he gets back to Zimbabwe, probably be unemployed! Sad.

    I watched what I think is the Video of the Security Forces assaulting a young man, I am not saying it was right, but what I saw was a total of 10 slaps to the face and two half hearted kicks to the thigh. One of them had a baton and never used it. My god, I have seen a hell of a lot worse. I've had a lot worse and that was at home as a kid! Didn't hurt. By the way the actual video is on Sky News. I have no idea what other legitimate video is out there.

    Snake bite! About August I was bitten on the back of the leg by a cobra. I knew the closest anti venom would be 5 1/2 hrs away. As I "made a plan" for the future, the bite did not seem all that bad. It turned out that it was a dry bite, my leg swelled up about twice it size and hurt like hell for about three months and that was it. I had just finished reading John Sharps great book Overcoming Fear. I knew what my plan was. It is a very good book and you might want to read his chapter as to his experience. He was bitten by a Puff Adder, many years ago and endured agony that I would not be strong enough to face. Yes we have "a plan" if a client is bitten!

    The brown shirts or 51% came once I won. At least that round!

    I will post some trail cam pictures of a nice leopard that killed a bush pig in camp. We hung the bush pig, he came in at 1900hrs for nights in a row and made a helluva racket when there was nothing left. That's why I am still here! Now for a cold Castle, its to late to go tiger fishing!
     
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    I love this thread. I don't understand it, though.
    ...millions of black people, we often keep them incompetent and lazy".....maybe doesn't translate well
    ....she is afraid to sleep in the bush......(confusing author with subject?)
    3 months til I arrive in Zim, time enough to make a plan. Fortunately, I see, all is well there.
    And outside help for Zimbabwe? It can't come from a White former colonial power....they would never accept it. Time to look further East. Maybe a Northern European style of government doesn't work well for Iron-Age hunter-gatherer groups...................FWB
     

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    @flatwater bill to answer some of your points, you are correct that a western power cannot help Zim. (or rather, will not be invited to do so) Zimbabwe is not unlike Vietnam, a proxy war state. Unlike the USSR versus USA in Vietnam, we are fighting with $$$s and government aligned corporations. Presently, China is extracting all the resources of Africa (and North Korea is also in on it) because corrupt politicians can get gigantic bribes in return for fleecing the nation. You'll see the billboards in Harare "China, our all-weather friend" reminding the reader of that deep "friendship". Unlike the west, where we set up hospitals, schools, provide aid, and enter into renewable commerce for manufacturing and other sustainable endeavors, all while exporting our "western ideals", the Chinese go differently. They get African nations to take on un-voidable contracts with sovereign debt. The Chinese aren't bringing prosperity or the modern way, they are extracting non-renewable resources backed by the sword. Just last week I read that China is seizing the railroads and airports of another nation (Tanzania, Zanzibar?) because they defaulted on debts. Literally, China is locking up Africa because they can strike deals with bribes to secure the resources of the nations for generations. Thus, if the USA gets involved there will be a dangerous proxy war because we are stepping on "China's turf". China bribed and paid for these nations and a move from the west destabilizes their ambitions which will cause retaliation.

    So exploring down the "how to plan for a brighter tomorrow" scenario for Zimbabwe, Western support is not a viable option. China and North Korea will fund thuggery to enforce sovereign contracts with communist run national companies operating in Zim. It's a no-go.

    So what is the only path forward for Zim? Domestic manufacturing and agriculture. You can't have the agriculture because the land was seized, the soil was leached of its fertility, and the infrastructure has failed. The knowledge to farm at the global export levels of Rhodesia is gone because the skilled labor of 500,000 in 1980 has shrunk to <13,000 today. So farming is out. What about manufacturing? That requires a total change in tax policy to absolutely end all tax on fuels (opposite direction), power (opposite direction), and raw imports (opposite direction) while also providing a durable contract so you can borrow against assets with banks (no secure assets in Zim, thus no collateral), no viable tax policies to encourage raw material import to grow manufacturing, and no viable domestic currency in which to buy foreign goods with a consistent exchange rate. (no monetary policy) So Manufacturing is out as well.

    So what's left as a plan forward? Tourism. Unfortunately, the land is being blighted and poached so hunting tourism is down and the risks to the consumer are so high that its eroded interest and prices. Eco-toursim is a low profit sector with higher demands for stability and amenities so that is out for the foreseeable future.

    So where does that leave the citizen? Fight, or flight. Airline tickets or Arms. That appears to be where Zim is headed and I don't see a path to "make a plan". (*I'm not suggesting armed rebellion whatsoever, I'm just saying that is one scenario that happens to failing states under these circumstances)
     

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    Excellent and well thought out summary, Rookhawk. Bleak, but probably accurate. It is my opinion, and not shared by many NGO's, that corruption is THE biggest obstacle to progress in the world. It takes away all incentive to save, invest, or plan for a future. Everyone tries to take all they can get, and NOW. Of course, corruption requires someone to steal from. Africa is rapidly running out of such people. Socialism works well until the cow has been milked dry. Here's hoping you and I are both wrong in our projections for Zim..................FWB
     
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    I met a man at DSC that had lost his farms in Zim a few years back. The court had just ruled last week that the government has to immediately pay him damages to his farm (which they produced receipts at court for) that would amount to over $4 million US or immediately sign the farm back over to him. He was excited as there was an actual court date for the closing and it was apparent that they had no way to pay the damages so he is getting his land back. We were in a group of 4 other Zim citizens at the time. Whatever other problems might be existing at the time it was at least encouraging news, and it came straight from the source with a group that knew his situation. It is a least a good start
     
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