Win 375 / scope mount

TomC

AH member
Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Messages
36
Reaction score
9
Location
Saratoga Springs N.Y.
Member of
SCI Life Member, NRA Life Member, N.A.H.C. Life Member, Buckmaster Life Member, BASS Life Member
Hunted
U.S.A. - Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, New York, New Brunswick Canada, Alberta Canada
Hello to all,
I am planning a trip to South Africa for plains game in July 2015 with my wife two sons and two friends.
I will be hunting with Koos De Meyer and Kuche Safaris.

I am looking for any feedback or suggestions,
I have a Winchester M-70 375 H& H and a Leupold VX3 2.5x8
I have see through scope mounts on on three deer rifles, Rem m-6 30.06, Win m-88 308 win
and a Rem m-700 270 win, I have used them a lot on the smaller calibers and like the see through mounts a lot.

Any thoughts or other suggestions on using see through mounts for the Winchester m-70 375 H&H/VX3 scope?

Thank You,
TomC

"Out here a man settles his own problems" I need help on this one, ha,ha!
 

enysse

AH ambassador
Joined
Jan 20, 2009
Messages
11,726
Reaction score
4,292
Media
136
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
1
Member of
Northeast Wisconsin SCI chapter, Lifetime member of NRA,RMEF
Hunted
Namibia, South Africa (East Cape, Guateng and Limpopo)
I hate see through scope mounts. It raises my head up unnecessarily and takes the scope away from the barrel. Once the scope is away from the barrel, you may think you have a clear shot and a limb or rock is still in the way! If you want to use open sights, get removable scope mounts.
 

Just Passing Through

AH senior member
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
98
Reaction score
28
Location
USA
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
NRA Patron Member, SCI, IWLA
I have the same rifle and scope. Warne QD rings with an extended front base work very well. The scope can be removed is a few seconds if necessary, and replaced just as quickly with the rifle shooting well. See through rings are not my cup of tea.
 

PHOENIX PHIL

AH ambassador
Joined
Apr 15, 2009
Messages
9,247
Reaction score
7,740
Media
54
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
2
Member of
SCI
Hunted
USA, S. Africa
I have the same rifle and scope. Warne QD rings with an extended front base work very well. The scope can be removed is a few seconds if necessary, and replaced just as quickly with the rifle shooting well. See through rings are not my cup of tea.

+1, :agree:
 

Spooksar

AH fanatic
Joined
Jun 3, 2013
Messages
930
Reaction score
861
Location
Beaverlodge Alberta
Media
23
Hunting reports
Africa
6
USA/Canada
4
Member of
SCI, Dallas Safari Club, NFA ,CSSA NRA, CCFR
Hunted
South Africa, Namibia, Canada (BC, Alberta Nunavet) Texas, New Mexico
See through mounts on a heavier recoiling rifle equals face off the stock equals more felt recoil. QD mounts are the what to go
 

Velo Dog

Silver supporter
AH legend
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
3,462
Reaction score
5,154
Location
Anchorage
Media
58
Hunting reports
Africa
1
USA/Canada
1
Member of
NRA Life Member.
Hunted
Africa 5 times, USA - most western states including Alaska and Hawaii.
Hello TomC,

At the end of the day, always consult your PH, because he probably lives where you will be hunting and he will know what you will and will not need for the area / local hunting conditions..

Aside from that, the following is my opinion, nothing more and definitely not The Gospel.

I cannot understand what see-through rings are supposed to do for anyone that their scope does not already do........so much faster and so much more clearly.

My best guess is that they are for people who, insist upon putting some giant varmint/target scope on top of their big game rifle.

That way, when one unexpectedly bumps into his quarry at very close range and he cannot focus through the gigantic, inter-galactic telescope on his rifle, he can just look underneath to use the irons.

I do not claim to be an expert but, my sordid life's experiences have led me to the conclusion that, for me personally, I am better off with a low powered, non-variable power scope, for general hunting purposes.

For anything larger than rodents, I prefer only a 4x (or less) scope, mounted way down as low as possible, over the bore.

A low power scope is not only faster than any iron sight arrangement yet invented but, it will focus up close, likewise crisp enough for deer/antelopes, out to 3 or 4 hundred yards, plus unlike iron sights, it makes small sticks in my path, possible to see.

If I were to fall and break my scope, I would just remove it and keep on hunting with iron sights.

Hopefully all of my rambling has made things as clear as mud.

You have chosen an excellent rifle, in the .375 H&H, the best of the best general purpose calibers.

Whatever scope mounting gadgets you settle upon, (if any), just remember; practice, practice, practice and then practice some more (from sticks).

Regards,
Velo Dog
 

Norwegianwoods

Silver supporter
AH elite
Joined
Nov 12, 2011
Messages
1,208
Reaction score
271
Media
29
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Europe
1
Hunted
Norway, Sweden, England, South Africa
I also don't see the point of see through mounts.

They only push your scope higher.
Resulting in having very little contact with the comb.

You can always rise your comb, but then you are not able to use the open sights.
Making the see through mount totally pointless.

A high see through scope also makes you shoulder your gun differently, often resulting in more felt recoil and reduced accuracy in a large bore.
 

Savage Hunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Mar 1, 2012
Messages
694
Reaction score
713
Media
12
Hunting reports
Africa
2
USA/Canada
6
30 years ago I put the see through scope mount on my BAR 270 for deer hunting in Mississippi.
Hunted with dogs some back then.
Was told I could pick up a running deer better with open sights at close range better.
Not true for me, though, so chunked them in short order.
No longer hunt with dogs, didn't really like it, but have shot quite a few deer running wide open.
 

rnovi

AH enthusiast
Joined
Jul 10, 2012
Messages
417
Reaction score
466
Location
Smyrna, TN
Media
27
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Member of
NRA, SCI, HFMA, and a Certified KCBS BBQ Judge
Hunted
South Africa, Texas, Alaska - hey, they count. Trust me!
Back in the day the see through sights also made sense due to less reliable scopes. If a scope broke you could still get a shot off without any fuss.

With todays scope reliability there's little purpose to back up iron sights any more. Sure, some rifles have them - and I have several rifles that have Irons. I've even gone so far as to test fire the irons to check POI.

The simpler answer is that if you are concerned about your scope, buy a back up scope. Set them both in QD rings and sight them both in. Leave the second scope in the backie and get busy hunting!
 

flatwater bill

AH elite
Joined
Jun 16, 2013
Messages
1,856
Reaction score
2,744
Media
24
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Asia/M.East
1
Member of
NRA endowment member/Life member
Hunted
NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
TomC.....................thanks for the post. Why do you like the see-thru mounts?......................FWB
 

Scott Slough

AH fanatic
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
975
Reaction score
930
Location
Nacogdoches, TX
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
SCI, Pineywoods SCI, NAHC, TTH
Hunted
USA, South Africa (Eastern Cape)
I had see through scope mounts on my first deer rifle, a Remington 700 ADL (no recoil pad) in 30-06 in the early 80s on the advice of a buddy ... and I can tell you that Spooksar is right. The more you raise your head to get on the scope, the more it kicks!
 

Rob404

Bronze supporter
AH legend
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
3,672
Reaction score
4,521
Location
Chaska Minnesota
Media
53
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Member of
NRA, Member Minnesota Horse and Hunt,,Caribou Hunt Club
Hunted
Illinois,Wisconsin,Michigan Limpopo Province South Africa
P1000948.JPG
QDs for me,, these are Alaska Arms QDs on my CZ
 

Forum statistics

Threads
36,612
Messages
693,415
Members
63,944
Latest member
KathrynMei
 

 

 

Latest posts

Latest profile posts

Rifle57 wrote on Rimshot's profile.
I bought some bullets from Rimshot and he is good to trade with!
Greetings all! I've been a hunter for 50 years, but only now planning a trip to Africa. I was fortunate and successfully bid on a couple hunts for plains game in SA later this year and next. Also a rare Native Texas (5th generation) and USMC Vet. Hunt safe y'all!
uujm wrote on trg's profile.
I am looking for a Safari Express. Was yours made in New Haven or South Carolina? Any other details you can give me? I am very motivated to buy.
pimes wrote on flatwater bill's profile.
Hello Bill - can you tell me that landowner/ranch/outfitter - Thank you!
Pete0905 wrote on damundsen87's profile.
Hello
Is the Khales 1-6 still for sale?
Thanks
Josh
 
Top