Will more countries open hunting?

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  1. tigris115

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    It seems that there are quite a few African countries that could potentially be great hunting destinations if they opened game reserves. I'm primarily thinking of Angola and Malawi, especially the former because of the vastness of its territory.
     
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    I am sure you are right. They could be good hunting destinations if they had their act together i.e. Stable government, good game management, and promote a safe environment for tourists. If they did so they would have lots of game and lots of hunters $$$!
    It's a formula that can be repeated.
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    I'm certain that in the case of Angola, it could be a great hunting destination SOMEDAY
    However, civil war is damn hard on game populations and Angola had a nasty one for a long time. Most of the game throughout most of Angola got eaten long, long ago.
    Going to take a period of stability and possibly reintroduction I think for Angola to be a hunting destination.
    But, on a bright note, look at much of Mozambique today. It's still a work in progress, but Moz has rapidly become a premier hunting country again after many years (2 decades?) of civil war. Thanks renamo and frelimo.
    Let's hope things don't slide back into chaos again.
     

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    Angola has been the rumor for years.... I bet they eventually do it, but they have bigger fish to fry first I think. There are definitely still some animals there and it could turn around quickly. Can you imagine what someone would pay for a Royal Sable and more importantly how that could fund recovery???? :K Love Eyes:

    Malawi is interesting. Last thing I heard was they were working on fencing in some Park land. Could that eventually lead to hunting? Perhaps.
     
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    "Hope springs eternal"
    Stability of government will be the first step in some places! There was a thread in just the last day or so speaking to Botswana having made an unscientific decision to stop hunting......so maybe healthy debate can follow.
     
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    Agree with Charlie 100%.
     
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    Angola is a possibility. Hunting / Tourism doesn't seem to be a priority to the government however. Hydrocarbons seems all they are interested in. I believe the Whittall's worked for a few years to try to make hunting happen and couldn't get government cooperation.

    https://www.africahunting.com/threads/hunting-angola-the-long-awaited-reopening-announced.2041/


    Mike is spot on regarding Malawi. Malawi is a beautiful, fertile country with an abundant human population that leaves no room for the animals. It has been that way for along time. Friends that lived in Malawi had plenty of wild animals for meat in the 1950's. By the late 60's they were coming to Tanzania to hunt and take meat home.
     
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    Personally, I would give a leg to see Kenya and Botswana reopen hunting but it's probably not possible given how powerful the antis are. I'd also like to see more places open for wild lion and black rhino so as to make it a wee more accessible.
     
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    please when you make comments like this just remember that hunting is STILL ALLOWED ON PRIVATE LAND IN BOTSWANA!!.............fk reminds me of when we spent our time telling people that hunting wasnt closed in zambia couple of years back......if you are going to make sweeping statements get them fkn correct please as it gets bloody annoying correcting people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Apologies. I was thinking more of how not only were government concessions taken off but dangerous game hunting was banned which led to a buttload of problems, mostly from this article.
     

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    http://dscnewscenter.org/2017/08/malawi-positive-signs-emerge-from-conservation-efforts/

    Not hunting, but still interesting.


    Malawi: Positive Signs Emerge from Conservation Efforts

    On August 2, the largest elephant translocation in Malawi’s history was completed. Since the beginning phase in July 2016, 520 elephants were moved 375 miles with a goal of alleviating conflict and pressure in an overpopulated area and reintroducing elephants in an area where the population had been decimated by poachers.

    African Parks, the organization that manages national parks throughout Africa, moved the elephants from Liwonde National Park and Majete Wildlife Reserve to Nkhotakota Wildlife Reserve in two phases, along with over a thousand other game animals. Over the last year, signs of a successful move have already surfaced.

    Liwonde National Park, the park where the elephants were moved from, has not faced a human or elephant fatality since the initiative began. Offspring from the first phase of translocation have already been documented in the new park as well. Economically, the move has increased tourism in the restored park, which has been beneficial for the surrounding communities.

    After the move, the elephants will still be managed by African Parks to ensure the best conservation practices are observed. Even with careful planning, predicting animal behavior can be difficult. For example, brown bears were reintroduced near the Spain-France border around 20 years ago, and officials are still trying to find the right population number to coincide with human population growth. A farmer is seeking compensation in Spain for the loss of over 200 sheep that occurred in one incident when the animals attempted to flee an attacking brown bear by jumping off a 650-foot cliff.
     
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    no probs i was prob bit over the top, but when the zambia saga was going on it was very annoying with everyone seeming to think hunting was shut when it wasnt, just certain govnt concessions but not all....cheers
     

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    Also while we're at it, make it easier for hunters to bring trophies back. Honestly, if it were me, I'd just do what CITES says because they seem to know best.
     
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    Well that one is a US issue. But yea, full agreement, we should simply follow CITES.
     

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    As for Angola, yes some moves made in the direction of opening hunting but seems to be big challenges that need to be overcome. One being large amounts of land mines left in the field. I am all for tracking down dangerous game animals in the thick stuff... but land mines are another thing all together.
     

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    land mines make hunting impala dangerous game
     
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    Oil prices are in the tank so lets hope they feel hunting is a good avenue to diversify
     
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    For the land mines, we have Gambian rats to solve that problem for us.
     

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