For my next safari I am considering a buffalo hunt, or a sable hunt. Depending on budget, I may be relegated to a 2nd PG safari. If this is the case, I would want it to be in an area where Lion roar, and Cape buffalo and elephants are present if possible. (I am trying to get another to join me and I think this would be the only way.) So where to go? High fences would be right out for this other individual. I know the Save and Bubye(Lemco) have perimeter fences but I believe would fulfill these requirements to the best of my knowledge, as long as we stayed near the interior. Most DG areas do not have generous PG quota's so this is a conundrum for me. I know the old PG one place, and photo safari in Kruger idea, but to get the old stick in the mud to go, it just would not work that way. The animal he is most interested in is Kudu. I have a list a mile long, so would probably do fine no matter what was present. Any ideas guys? Mozambique? Zim? Any place specific in SA? I think these three are my best bet, but pro's/con's, specific places would help. I am willing to hear offers from agents/outfitters but please be aware I/we would not be making a quick decision and most likely this would be a 2013 or even 2014 hunt. I know I am fighting an uphill battle just getting them signed on, so am trying to be armed with as much info as possible before I even bring it up with him. If anyone knows of father/(adult)son deals that fit this description, please fill me in.