Where have all the guns gone?

DriveByGuy

AH member
Joined
Oct 11, 2020
Messages
19
Reaction score
27
Location
Texas
I am finally in the market for a rifle, and had my mind set on a new Winchester safari in .375 from one of the big box stores/gunbroker.

Of course, there are none for sale ANYWHERE. No one is in stock. Did Winchester stop making them? Or did the covid panic buyers literally buy anything and everything, including safari rifles lol??? Who panic buys a .375h&h?
 

CoElkHunter

AH legend
Joined
Nov 3, 2018
Messages
3,886
Reaction score
5,407
Location
Colorado
Media
20
I am finally in the market for a rifle, and had my mind set on a new Winchester safari in .375 from one of the big box stores/gunbroker.

Of course, there are none for sale ANYWHERE. No one is in stock. Did Winchester stop making them? Or did the covid panic buyers literally buy anything and everything, including safari rifles lol??? Who panic buys a .375h&h?
I think the pandemic/riots panic buyers bought all the black guns, pistols, defense shotguns and ALL the ammo for them with their first round of Covid stimulus checks. Then they branched out buying everything else with their second check, including Safari rifles and ammo for them. Some of the stuff has come back slowly at greatly inflated prices. You just have to look around including the classifieds here on AH for a fair price?
 

BeeMaa

AH legend
Joined
Jun 11, 2017
Messages
3,453
Reaction score
6,605
Location
Alexandria, VA USA
Media
115
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
NRA Life Member, SCI
Hunted
Eastern US & RSA
Not sure what exactly you are looking for but a quick search on GB shows 77 bolt action rifles in 375H&H, including 8 from Winchester. OK I'll concede that none of the M70's are new, but there are 375's out there to be had.

Lots of quality firearms from Browning, CZ, Sako, Kimber and Ruger. And if you really want to dig into your wallet...Blaser, Mauser, Rigby and H&H.

One option is this Dakota rifle, which from a mechanical standpoint is little more than a slicked up WIN M70 with a better grade of wood.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/907263414

Hope you are able to find what you are looking for.
 

Attachments

  • Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.06 AM.png
    Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.06 AM.png
    2.2 MB · Views: 35
  • Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.08 AM.png
    Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.08 AM.png
    1.4 MB · Views: 39
  • Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.10 AM.png
    Screen Shot 2021-09-11 at 7.24.10 AM.png
    751.4 KB · Views: 34

DriveByGuy

AH member
Joined
Oct 11, 2020
Messages
19
Reaction score
27
Location
Texas
Not sure what exactly you are looking for but a quick search on GB shows 77 bolt action rifles in 375H&H, including 8 from Winchester. OK I'll concede that none of the M70's are new, but there are 375's out there to be had.

Lots of quality firearms from Browning, CZ, Sako, Kimber and Ruger. And if you really want to dig into your wallet...Blaser, Mauser, Rigby and H&H.

One option is this Dakota rifle, which from a mechanical standpoint is little more than a slicked up WIN M70 with a better grade of wood.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/907263414

Hope you are able to find what you are looking for.

Unfortunately I’ve been a little crazy with my gun purchases the past couple years, so I’ve have to tone it back some or else the ladyfriend is gonna string me up by the nads.

I was looking for a new production Winchester M70 mainly because it’s cheap enough that I won’t care about putting dings in the wood (that I plan on replacing) or scratching the bluing. I don’t want to ruin those older models available on gunbroker.
 

BeeMaa

AH legend
Joined
Jun 11, 2017
Messages
3,453
Reaction score
6,605
Location
Alexandria, VA USA
Media
115
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
NRA Life Member, SCI
Hunted
Eastern US & RSA
Unfortunately I’ve been a little crazy with my gun purchases the past couple years, so I’ve have to tone it back some or else the ladyfriend is gonna string me up by the nads.

I was looking for a new production Winchester M70 mainly because it’s cheap enough that I won’t care about putting dings in the wood (that I plan on replacing) or scratching the bluing. I don’t want to ruin those older models available on gunbroker.
IMO - You don't buy a Ferrari and worry about having to replace the tires. It's a rifle, and at the end of the day it's job is to (safely) fire a cartridge. Those scratches and wear marks are reminders of the memories of wonderful hunts. I can understand if you were buying Jim Corbett's 275RIGBY or some other investment type rifle, but the majority of hunters are not in that league. Get what you can afford and enjoy using is how I hunt.

As for your "ladyfriend", it sounds like she needs a rifle of her very own to start her own rifle addiction. :cool: Something like a 6.5x55SE or 270WIN would be a good place to start.
 

Medicine

AH senior member
Joined
Jul 26, 2021
Messages
71
Reaction score
488
Media
12
Hunting reports
Africa
1
New ones are to be had. Keep checking gunbroker. Especially the seller who offers free safaris. He has listed a few recently.
But, if it were me, hell wouldn’t be able to keep me away from one of those listed New Haven Super Express.
 
Last edited:

Berettaco

Gold supporter
AH veteran
Joined
Jan 4, 2021
Messages
135
Reaction score
218
Location
Cape Girardeau
Media
3
Hunted
South Africa
I think the pandemic/riots panic buyers bought all the black guns, pistols, defense shotguns and ALL the ammo for them with their first round of Covid stimulus checks. Then they branched out buying everything else with their second check, including Safari rifles and ammo for them. Some of the stuff has come back slowly at greatly inflated prices. You just have to look around including the classifieds here on AH for a fair price?
Damn - how big were the checks?
 

baxterb

AH enthusiast
Joined
Jun 12, 2019
Messages
387
Reaction score
594
Damn - how big were the checks?


All told about 4K per person. Whether you needed it or not. Then they pushed a child tax credit advance (meaning they advanced you the credit that you write off on your taxes at the end of the year). To opt out of that you had to do a biometric identity check.

Think of that - it is more difficult to get the government to STOP sending you money than it is to VOTE against the assholes that so freely give away everyone else's money...
 

curtism1234

AH elite
Joined
Apr 28, 2016
Messages
1,070
Reaction score
1,333
Media
6
I think the stimulus really caused the hunting rifles to go out of stock. I was/am half thinking about a Browning x Bolt 375 and there are normally 20 of them at any given time on gunbroker. Right now - none. People who were on the fence and just casually shopped ended up pulling the trigger and these manufacturers only make certain guns/cartridges once or twice a year.

It doesn't help Remington went bankrupt either
 

DriveByGuy

AH member
Joined
Oct 11, 2020
Messages
19
Reaction score
27
Location
Texas
I think the stimulus really caused the hunting rifles to go out of stock. I was/am half thinking about a Browning x Bolt 375 and there are normally 20 of them at any given time on gunbroker. Right now - none. People who were on the fence and just casually shopped ended up pulling the trigger and these manufacturers only make certain guns/cartridges once or twice a year.

It doesn't help Remington went bankrupt either

I think that’s our problem: manufacturers only make a handful (relatively speaking) of their “safari” rifles. All the Covid crazies bought literally everything they could get their hands on. You’d think they would have bought handguns or something.

Every other category of firearm, like semi auto sporting rifles, handguns, even lever actions, are in stores; safari rifles, not so much.
 

Forrest Halley

AH elite
Joined
Jul 28, 2019
Messages
1,293
Reaction score
2,184
Location
VA, USA
Media
26
Who panic buys a .375h&h?
Well I'm going with someone who realized they could get ammunition for it when they couldn't get 5.56. The iron sights probably solved the sighting problem rapidly on an apartment wall somewhere with a dot or orange sticker and a quick bore sighting. They figure they've got something substantial that will ward off evil spirits and they're really not wrong. It's so loud that it probably overcomes the shortcoming of low magazine capacity and recoil delayed shot to shot splits. Not much will advance in the face of that report and it certainly isn't getting back up after getting hit. Probably never even been fired sitting in a corner somewhere loaded with PPU soft points awaiting its hour of need.

Nah, there is just more of a demand for plastic fantastics in 9mm and 5.56 right now. Once the world survives covid and whatever ensuing power grabs by the various governments it should return to availability again.
 

CoElkHunter

AH legend
Joined
Nov 3, 2018
Messages
3,886
Reaction score
5,407
Location
Colorado
Media
20
Well I'm going with someone who realized they could get ammunition for it when they couldn't get 5.56. The iron sights probably solved the sighting problem rapidly on an apartment wall somewhere with a dot or orange sticker and a quick bore sighting. They figure they've got something substantial that will ward off evil spirits and they're really not wrong. It's so loud that it probably overcomes the shortcoming of low magazine capacity and recoil delayed shot to shot splits. Not much will advance in the face of that report and it certainly isn't getting back up after getting hit. Probably never even been fired sitting in a corner somewhere loaded with PPU soft points awaiting its hour of need.

Nah, there is just more of a demand for plastic fantastics in 9mm and 5.56 right now. Once the world survives covid and whatever ensuing power grabs by the various governments it should return to availability again.
Yeah, I bought my Lott to ward off any Covid crazed driver in a rogue Chevy truck that might barrel toward me in the neighborhood. Ha! Ha! Ha!
 

Forrest Halley

AH elite
Joined
Jul 28, 2019
Messages
1,293
Reaction score
2,184
Location
VA, USA
Media
26
Yeah, I bought my Lott to ward off any Covid crazed driver in a rogue Chevy truck that might barrel toward me in the neighborhood. Ha! Ha! Ha!
I bought my Lott because I had a case of ammo for it and needed a rifle.
I bought my .375 M70 because I had been drinking and GunBroker'ing.
Such fine and logical reasons!
 

Forum statistics

Threads
39,847
Messages
776,386
Members
72,695
Latest member
pureverags
 

 

 

Latest profile posts

NTH wrote on JimT's profile.
Hey Jim, I read that you’re from Dequincey and just returned from Africa. I’m from Lake Charles and went there in April. What outfitter did you use and would you share your experience and pics? I won our trip to Kuche through DU.
gprippers wrote on SAFARIKIDD's profile.
Hello! Nice rifle! I have IDENTICAL rifle in 375 H&H so i was wondering what gunsmith did the work on it? Appreciate it and if you decide there is anything you are willing to take in partial trade, let me know. I have quite a few pistols, long guns and sxs & o/u shotguns as well.

Let me know if you are looking for anything in particular.

Thanks,
Rob
Bearhunter46 wrote on Philip Glass's profile.
Philip, do you still have the 416 for sale?
NTH wrote on Rick HOlbert's profile.
Nice “meeting” you Rick. I made my first trip to S. Africa this year through Kuche Safaris. We had an incredible time. What outfitter do you use? Neal
LIFE-FORM TAXIDERMY World Leader In Superior Taxidermy Since 1981

taxidermy-south-africa.jpg
 
Top