I’m curious, do the land cruisers have a solid front axle, or a control arm front suspension? I’ve always been of the opinion that a solid axle was best, mainly due to simplicity.
@CBHYes, they do. Simplicity, maybe. Maybe also a very over of old technology for a workhorse that is built for tough conditions
They stopped doing a olid axle in the Hilux pre 2000? Hilux and others are building vehicles with more comfort for the market demand. So many families run twin can utes in some areas and some young people like them.
LandCruiser ute, Troop Carrier etc (Commercial line) re still using a solid front axle. I have driven /managed a few for work.
I don't have a bias toward car manufacturers but Toyota are a good vehicle.
Those model LandCruiser a are common here and the Twin Cab and station wagon versions are becoming popular. Australia are a small consumer worldwide so our requirements.
They are common in rural Australia.
They are expensive but if you have the need for them not much compares.
If Toyota are the vehicle of choice for terrorists who are using them in harsh conditions with probably minimal servicing and maintenance the it speaks volumes.
Australia are a small consumer on the world market we won't influences the market but we would be stuffed without these. I could see old ones holding their price well beyond their value.
I would consider one if I was likely to start using it more.
Chris the old hilux pre 97 were pretty good but them Toyota stuffed them up making them yuppie friendly with common rail motors instead of the old DHD motors. Toyota took a good vehicle and turned it into a piece of shit. I've seen the newer ones out bush with broken upper shock mounts, one the drivers side gaurd/ fender fell off and got run over by the back wheels, broken tail shafts and stuffed fuel pumps because of our low quality diesel. Early Luxie farm truck yes unbreakable the new one hit a pothole and the go to crap.
I add a bit of 2 stoke oil to my diesel. It helps with the lubrication of the injectors and pump.Bob,
If the diesel fuel there is trashing fuel pumps and/or injectors, it sounds like the fuel doesn’t have enough lubricity in it? If it’s “ultra low” sulfur content (15ppm) like it is here, an additive containing more lubricity is needed. Once they replaced the “low” sulfur (500ppm) with ultra low here, problems with pumps, injectors and other engine components started popping up due to the lack of the sulphur lubricating those parts.
Wyatt,I’m a big fan of simplicity. I prefer my engines to have a manual kill switch. Run them with no battery if you want to. I also prefer Bosch injection pumps, common rail performs nicely, but there are too many sensors and wiring involved.
If you have to run 2 stroke oil in your fuel, your injection system is too delicate. Normally, around here that means you have a 6.0 power stroke. Meanwhile the 7.3 power stroke, is designed to run on both No.2 or No.1 diesel (kerosene). My friend ran a 3/4 tank of gas through his 7.3, on accident, with no damage.
My point is when you find something built right, like the land cruiser apparently is, they are very hard to replace, once you become accustomed to it.
That still amazes me that your friend ran that gas through his diesel without blowing up the engine? Anyway, those 7.3 engines are pretty forgiving when using diesel, biodiesel, #1, #2 diesel, etc. Hey, I'll bet they'd even run on Vegemite? Maybe we could Bob to try it out in a diesel in OZ? Ha! Ha! Ha!
This.You cannot compare a Hylux witj a Landcruisr. PHs are buying Hylux for one reason only. We own 5 Landcruiser from 1982 to 2021. Our 1983 is in as good of condition as our 2021 and taken care of it will still be chugging along 50 yrs. from now.
Land Rover that is a whole different subject!
You are indeed a grenade thrower.I will add some fuel to the fire. They can’t compare to a Unimog or a G-wagon.
You are indeed a grenade thrower.
My problem with the Unimog is size. Would be like using a MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicle for a hunting vehicle. Rhodesians and South Africans did kit quite a few out that way. Of course with a bit of armor plate and a light MG on the roof, it might be just the thing for CAR.
The G Wagon is a great machine, but unless you could lay your hands on one of the simplified Bundeswehr models, it would be a nightmare to maintain in the bush. Frankly it would be a nightmare regardless with no real logistics support structure south of the Sahara.
Our around town and travel "car" is a Range Rover. You are correct. With a 5 liter supercharged V8 and performance tires, it would be of limited value anywhere off a highway - but on one - hell of a machine. It will cruise at 130 kph all day without trying and can adapt to any road/weather conditions.I've seen the unimog equiv used for carrying large groups of ''bush tourists'' about in SA but, though I love the unimog, it is not the vehicle for day to day bush work.
I don't know how Toyota did it - but they nailed it with the 70 series
Heavy duty gearbox, clutch and diffs (lockable), coils on the front and leaves on the back (for carrying weight) and narrow enough to get through the bush.
A simple and powerful engine with low end grunt.
Reliable and quality and cheap.
Basically everything that Landrover failed to deliver through too many compromises and, more recently, a target audience geared towards the shopping mall warrior
Our around town and travel "car" is a Range Rover. You are correct. With a 5 liter supercharged V8 and performance tires, it would be of limited value anywhere off a highway - but on one - hell of a machine. It will cruise at 130 kph all day without trying and can adapt to any road/weather conditions.
My hunting/ranch vehicle is a Ford F-250. Wonderful machine.
And I have my baby - the (FJ40) in my avatar.
But if I were across the water, it would be a 70 series.