What Do Pigs And The Holocaust Have In Common: More Than You Think, Apparently!

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  1. Hank2211

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    I hesitate to post this, because it is just so offensive on so many levels, but I think it's important to see how some people think. These are the people that many think we, as hunters, need to engage with in order to have them understand our perspective.

    This article appeared in Canada's National Post newspaper on March 10, 2017, reporting on a trial which has been going on for many months in Ontario, Canada:

    BURLINGTON, Ont. — A trial for a woman charged with giving water to a pig on its way to slaughter took on grand proportions Thursday with the treatment of pigs equated to the extermination of Jews in Nazi Germany and the accused being compared to some of history’s greatest human rights champions: Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Susan B. Anthony.

    In making closing submissions in the case against Anita Krajnc, who is charged with mischief after giving a roadside drink to a pig packed in a truck outside a Burlington slaughterhouse in 2015, her lawyer Gary Grill evoked the Holocaust.

    He told a story from a supporter whose parents were in Hungary in 1944, he said. They “had to witness helplessly as the Jews of that town were herded by gendarmes into cattle cars and how the gendarmes threatened and drove off local citizens, including his mother, who were trying to give them water,” Grill said in court.

    “The Nazi forced Jews and gays and gypsy and those they saw as others, into trains and trucks and carted them off to slaughter. Is it the same right that the Crown now argues that (the farmer) has, that it was legal?”

    As Grill spoke, Assistant Crown Attorney Harutyun Apel sat shaking his head and looking bewildered.

    Grill continued: “It is the same justification for the historical mistreatment of others,” and humanity “consistently forgets or ignores these hard-fought lessons of the past.”

    Outside court, Krajnc, 49, said the story about the Holocaust was “really, really moving.”

    “I really respect that comparison,” she said. “Everyone knows that giving water to thirsty Jews on a cattle train is a small act of charity and what really should have happened is they should have been saved, you know, from being gassed and murdered. And what I did was a small act of charity to that pig who was slaughtered.

    “I feel guilty. If I’m guilty of anything it’s for not doing enough and I’m sure the people who didn’t do enough for the Jews and for others, that’s the guilt that they feel.”

    After court, Grill said the Holocaust argument was important.

    “There are many important parallels that we can draw from the two things. One is our inability to have emotional contagion, somehow. Why don’t we feel the suffering of others? How do we close ourselves out to that, whether it be Jews being herded into a train or whether it be pigs?” he said.

    It highlights the strong vision of animal rights held by Krajnc, who was supported by about 120 activists crammed into the courtroom, spilling out of chairs and, with the approval of Justice David Harris, sitting in rows on the floor.

    Instead of merely asking the judge to acquit Krajnc on a paucity of evidence brought by the Crown of any harm stemming from her actions, Grill encouraged the judge to strike a legal precedent — to accept her actions were justified for the public good.

    Grill and co-counsel James Silver asked for the alleviation of animal suffering to be seen alongside such Good Samaritan acts as breaking the speed limit when rushing someone to hospital or pushing someone away from attacking another person.

    “Anita is acting in the public good when she applies those very same principles to non-human animals,” Grill said in court.

    “The scale of suffering defies comprehension,” he said. “How we treat these pigs, how we treat these persons,” Grill said before being stopped by Harris, who interjected: “Let’s pause for a moment. There is no evidence before me, there is no legal basis for finding that a pig is a person.”

    Grill retorted: “There is a scientific and moral basis.”

    In his no-holds-barred defence, Grill summarized testimony from the five days of evidence that factory farming damages the environment and that “bacon is potentially lethal” and that feeding bacon to a child is child abuse. He said animal farming practices helped create “an existential threat to the species.”

    He also said Judge Harris should see his client like those who have also found themselves before the courts, unfairly charged but facing the consequences to provoke change.

    “History is sweeping with stories of great souls who have devoted themselves to changing the world,” he said, naming Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Susan B. Anthony.

    “What do these people have in common,” Grill asked, but before he could answer his own rhetorical question, Harris again interjected, answering: “They did something for the common good and were all convicted.”

    His emphasis was on the conviction, as Grill was arguing for an acquittal. “So I should break with history,” Harris asked.

    “You should be on the right side of history,” Grill said.

    Krajnc said whatever the outcome, she will not give up.

    “This is the fight of my life. I am going to spend the rest of my life fighting for the rights of animals ’til they are considered equal just like the rest of us.”

    Harris reserved his decision until May 4.

    Should she be convicted and fined, Krajnc said Moby, a well-known American musician, has offered to pay her fine. She said she would take him up on it.
     

  2. spike.t

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    @Hank2211 I cringed at the headline but you read the article and go really?!?! I can't believe they would do this, they really have no shame.
     
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    what a crock os shit,it shouldnt have come before the courts at all.

    The arresting/charging officer should be fed to the pigs himself for the frivolity of it all.
     

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    I feel for the judge having to listen to this repugnant drivel and actually be required to pay attention.

    I await the most certain appeal by the porcine cheerleader!
     

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    Sorry..... I don't find the relevance of story or the corollary. Poppycock!
     

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    I think you've got the facts of the case wrong. Likely not enough information.

    The hogs were being sent to slaughter by truck. The accused was feeding them water (or something). The officer did his job in charging her, because when animals are being taken to slaughter, you can't have random people giving them food or drink. This meat is destined for human consumption - - who knows what could be in the food or drink? So to give animals which are not yours food or drink in this situation is an offence. Her defence is that this is like feeding people in railcars, so she should be found not guilty.

    I agree with you - I thought a lot about the thread title. The headline from the paper was "Lawyer invokes Nazis in animal rights case." The lawyer used the Holocaust in his argument - repeatedly. I did not mean to offend anyone with the title - I thought it was descriptive. Apologies if anyone was offended. I certainly didn't want to use "Nazis" in the thread title.

    The relevance is to the anti-hunters in the world. Hunters are told we just need to make our arguments about conservation, economic value, etc., etc., and people will learn and understand. This person and her lawyer are arguing that animals are people, with all of the rights of people. You can't kill a person, ergo you can't kill an animal. You can't own a person, so you can't own an animal. In a picture in the paper, the accused is holding a sign which says "We are all animals." You can't have any discussion with a person who holds these views, because from their perspective, everything we as hunters do and talk about on this site is always immoral and wrong.
     
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    Wow...
     

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    WOW, I am speechless. I can't believe Canadian $$$$ are being spend on this BS argument.
     

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    What exactly is the definition of a "non-human animal" exactly?

    How are we, or anyone, able to logically converse with these people? Obviously, logic is out the window.

    On an unrelated note, I'm very hungry for pulled pork now...
     
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    Oh, to be a judge and just issue summary judgement...
     
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