Trophy Bonded Bear Claw Bullets

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  1. Ridgewalker

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    Well apparently if you want to reload TBBC bullets you can forget it according to an email reply I received from Speer. In essence, they said TBBC bullets are actually a Federal bullet that was distributed by Speer for a short time. Now they are just loaded into Federal ammunition and not available as a reloading component.

    So if your gun doesn’t shoot the Federal TBBC ammo well, you have to find another option.

    Just thought you guys would like to know.
    Have a great day!
     

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    The Federal ammo shoots well through my 458Lott and 375 H&H. Not a reloader myself so no matter what I have to pay the retail price,
     
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    I’ve only ever shot the Federal loads, and I have to say the TBBC is up there with the A-Frame, barely behind the Barnes in my experience.
     
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    They were available for a short period of time about 15 years ago but ya, Federal keeps pretty tight wraps on them.
     
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  5. Ridgewalker

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    In my MRC 375 H&H the 300gr Fed TBBC shoots 3 in 1 1/2” groups at 100 meters @2,478 FPS. Fine for most African species but not crocodile IMO.
    I need to consistently hit a golf ball at 100 meters from a Harris bipod in prone position. So I’m told. My 250 TTSX Barnes will do 1/2”@100 meters consistently. I guess that will be my croc load.
    Best
     
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    What cal are you looking for?
     

  7. Ridgewalker

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    .375 particularly 300gr.
     

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    Try North Fork bonded in 300 gr or 350 gr.
     

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    Thanks IvW. Got some coming in the end of the week. They also emailed me some reloading data.
    Thanks to you I get to start all over figuring out loads for my 375 H&H...LOL! Luckily I enjoy working up loads!
     

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    Although I plan to hunt with North Fork in July, I picked up some Swift A Frames for the Jeffery at less than half the price for range use. If I have a few of them left over no one is going to criticize their use on African game. I'm using the 400 Gr Hornady Interbond bullets I bought off tarbe in the 416 Rigby.

    North Fork provided me with loads for my 416 Rigby and my 404 Jeffery, without a doubt they are good folks to talk to and deal with. Now if Rhino could get a U.S. distributor we'd have more load development to do.
     
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    @tarbe is working on the Rhino connection for us I believe.
     
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    Tarbe, is that correct? I would think that it would take a large volume distributor like Midway to bring in enough quantity to get the shipping charges down to a reasonable cost.
     

  13. tarbe

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    Where there is a will, there is a way.

    What remains to be seen is if the principal parties can make a plan that works for everyone.

    I am sure the effort will be made.

    I just know that it would be good for U.S. hunters to have the option to purchase and use Rhino bullets...and I hope it can happen.
     
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    My new 35 Whelen loves the Federal TBBC ammo - sub MOA. But, not only are TBBC bullets not available as a component, Federal has discontinued the TBBC ammo for 35 Whelen as well! When I found that out, I bought everything I could find. So I've got that going for me and won't have to cook up a new load until it runs out, which should be a few years. When I do start reloading for it, I'm planning to start with the A-frames or TSXs. The A-frames are not cheap!

    I did notice that Federal/Speer has started to offer the TBT bullets as components recently, at least in smaller calibers (270, 7mm, and 30).
     

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    What is the “TBT”? I cannot find anything listed that on the Speer website.
     

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    Trophy Bonded Tip (or Tipped).
     
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    From what I have seen I would prefer the TBBC for larger game like elk. The trophy bonded tip blew a nice hole clean through an antelope. But a few days later a bull was shot twice with no signs of being hit. Yes the bull died, but I wasn't impressed with the performance compared to the smaller animal. 200 yards from a 300 WSM they seemed to pencil through with minimal damage. Same box of ammo so I have no idea what may have happened. Two animals isn't much of an experiment, however it isn't a confidence booster.
     
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    Good info John J! Thanks! Losing an animal here which just costs a few hours of hunting (I live in Colorado) vs losing a $2,000 animal in Africa after traveling two days to get there and days of hunting...ugh! Not a good option. Back to Northfork bullets.
     

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    I lived in Colorado for 16 years, recently moved. Except for antelope, I hunted with a Marlin 45 70. Iron sights and my cast bullets. They never let me down.
     
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