Torn between two calibers

Discussion in 'Firearms & Ammunition' started by Catahoula, Jul 5, 2015.

  1. Catahoula

    Catahoula AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    298
    Video/Photo:
    32
    Likes Received:
    285
    I am going on my first plains game safari next year. Zebra, wildebeest and warthog are on the menu. My Howa 30-06 is making the trip and is more than capable of taking the targeted game. However, I am enamored with the Ruger number one, having owned and hunted with several. I had planned on picking up a .375, (Already purchased a big lot of bullets from Tarbe) but the one I had my eye on has sold. It's probably overkill anyway. I was also offered a 416 Rem. at a great price, but that is definitely more than needed. I've got my eye on two, a 9.3x62 and a 405 Winchester. I know that either is more than enough for my planned hunt. Either is also usable for all manner of North American game. So.....

    1) 405 Winchester- Limited options in ammo and bullet selection, especially heavier than 300 grains. Brass and ammo are pricey. Trajectory makes it a ~200 yard gun. But....the one I'm looking at has a beautifully figured stock. Should be a winner within it's limitations. Teddy took it to Africa! (I'm a nostalgic old guy) It's a discontinued caliber that had limited production. It is slightly more costly than the 9.3 and definitely more costly to feed.

    2) 9.3x62. Good availability of brass, bullets and ammo at reasonable prices. Trajectory suitable for longer ranges. Available NIB at reasonable prices. proven over and over on all manner of African game. But.... all that I have seen have plain jane wood on them, as do most (Not all) of the recently produced number ones. These are readily available so I could shop around to find one that catches my eye. I do admire nicely figured walnut.

    What to do? I know, get both. Probably not happening. If I purchase two, one will be a .375 or .416.
     

  2. Divernhunter

    Divernhunter AH Elite

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2012
    Messages:
    1,049
    Video/Photo:
    38
    Likes Received:
    870
    Location:
    Denair, California USA
    Member of:
    Life member NRA and NAHC Escalon Sportsmans club, Manteca sportsman club and Coalinga Rifle Club. Member of SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, RSA
    I would like the 9.3X62
     

  3. JimP

    JimP AH Elite

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,291
    Video/Photo:
    28
    Likes Received:
    1,076
    Location:
    Gypsum, Co
    Member of:
    NRA, RMEF
    Hunted:
    US (Utah, Arizona, Idaho, Colorado, Nevada. Canada (British Colombia), South Africa (Eastern Cape)
    Which one are you going to be able to purchase and shoot it enough that it is comfortable for you?

    For me personally I would go with the .375 but then I have always been interested in the 416's and if I found one that I liked and could afford I would buy it.

    Other than that I wouldn't be in a hurry to purchase one that you may pay more for just because you would like to take it with you on your safari. As you said your 06 will get the job done.
     

  4. K-man

    K-man AH Elite

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2013
    Messages:
    1,373
    Video/Photo:
    38
    Likes Received:
    1,939
    Hunted:
    Alaska, RSA, Zimbabwe, New Zealand, British Columbia, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming
    It sounds like you are trying to decide between a weapon as a tool or a weapon as a work of art. If you get both thats great. Keep looking and you might find both in one. Either will be enought gun for almost any scenario.
     

  5. Catahoula

    Catahoula AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    298
    Video/Photo:
    32
    Likes Received:
    285
    I'm not really looking for a piece of art, but I do appreciate a good looking firearm. Function and form don't have to be mutually exclusive. I'd buy a fine double, but most cost as much as a safari! I agree, either should do the job.


    I'll shoot either enough to get comfortable. I'm fortunate enough to have a range at home. I shoot 3-4 times a week. Sometimes it's only a couple of shots from field positions after work, but I find those sessions to be very beneficial. After all, it's the first shot that counts!

    Thanks for the feedback guys.
     

  6. Witold Krzyżanowski

    Witold Krzyżanowski AH ENABLER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2013
    Messages:
    4,024
    Video/Photo:
    15
    Likes Received:
    1,822
    Location:
    Trzebiatów
    Member of:
    1977; Polish Hunting Assotiation
    Hunted:
    Namibia, Zimbabwe
    My sugestion: 9,3 x 62.
    Witold
     
    Redruff and ZG47 like this.

  7. ActionBob

    ActionBob AH ENABLER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,425
    Video/Photo:
    43
    Likes Received:
    4,783
    Location:
    Central Minnesota
    Member of:
    NRA life, DSC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
    If you allready havethe bullets, why not continue looking for a nice 375?

    All 3 calibers are classic and connected to Africa... it does seem the 9.3 might be the one you really want.. Would be very cool in a full stock version!

    I'm with you in appreciating a nice rifle with great wood! I want that balance of a working rifle that is just far enough from being a true piece of art that I can still hunt with it.
     

  8. norfolk shooter

    norfolk shooter AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    977
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    710
    Location:
    Norfolk, UK
    Member of:
    BASC
    Hunted:
    UK, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire, Dumfries and Galloway (Scotland). RSA, North West
    Come the the dark side and get a 375 H&H job done!:Blackalien:
     
    BWH, larry4831, Ado and 3 others like this.

  9. Spooksar

    Spooksar AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    804
    Video/Photo:
    14
    Likes Received:
    610
    Location:
    Beaverlodge Alberta
    Member of:
    SCI, Dallas Safari Club, NFA ,CSSA NRA, CCFR
    Hunted:
    South Africa, Namibia, Canada (BC, Alberta Nunavet) Texas, New Mexico
    I've used my 9.3x62 on 4 trips to Africa it will take any plains game and all dangerous game if you do your part. Having said that a 375 H&H will do it better.
     

  10. Upton O. Good

    Upton O. Good AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Messages:
    347
    Video/Photo:
    37
    Likes Received:
    215
    Member of:
    NRA Life member, Nature Conservancy, Dallas Safari Club
    Hunted:
    Zimbabwe, South Africa, Canada, Mexico, United States, Louisiana
    I personally love the .375, it's dangerous game legal but can be great on everything from genet on up.
     

  11. Kevin Davenport

    Kevin Davenport AH Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2015
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Orange, Texas
    Hunted:
    USA,
    CZ 550fs in 9.3x62 and a Merkel .450-.400 would be my pick!
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2015

  12. bassasdaindia

    bassasdaindia AH Elite

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,271
    Video/Photo:
    15
    Likes Received:
    727
    the 9.3
     

  13. 8x68

    8x68 AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    616
    Video/Photo:
    10
    Likes Received:
    425
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Member of:
    OFAH, CCFR
    Hunted:
    Canada, USA
    I like both the 9.3 & 375 H&H (I have both calibres). Recoil from either is more of a "push" than 'thump" on the shoulder. I do believe though that the 375 would have a bit of an edge over the 9.3 but not by much. Much can also be said of the 8x68S (I have this calibre also and it's awesome). Basically a 338WM without the ouch! (I have this calibre also :)) Anyone sensing a theme here?
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2015

  14. CAustin

    CAustin AH ENABLER BRONZE SUPPORTER AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    May 7, 2013
    Messages:
    12,753
    Video/Photo:
    196
    Likes Received:
    8,928
    Member of:
    Courtney Hunting Club, NRA Life Member, SCI Kansas City Chapter
    Hunted:
    South Africa, KwaZulu Natal, Kalahari, Northwest, Limpopo, Gauteng, APNR Kruger Area. USA Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, New Mexico, North Carolina and Texas
    Action Bob has given you should advice. Keep looking for a 375.
     
    larry4831 and sierraone like this.

  15. Bullthrower338

    Bullthrower338 AH ENABLER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2014
    Messages:
    3,205
    Video/Photo:
    70
    Likes Received:
    5,979
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Member of:
    Life Member Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, NRA, Huntin' Fool, DSC and Pope and Young Club
    Hunted:
    USA, Mexico, Canada, RSA, Australia NT
    375, you got the bullets! 9.3 would meet the cool factor big time in a no.1 international. And then turn me on to the good deal 416! Lol
    Cheers,
    Cody
     

  16. AB2506

    AB2506 AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    426
    Video/Photo:
    16
    Likes Received:
    311
    Location:
    Calgary, AB Canada
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    Alberta, Florida, Eastern Cape of South Africa
    9.3x62
     

  17. Boela

    Boela AH Veteran

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    190
    Video/Photo:
    17
    Likes Received:
    327
    Location:
    Richards Bay
    Member of:
    Zululand Hunters & Conservation Association, South African Hunters Association, PHASA
    Hunted:
    South Africa, England, Wales, Austria, Swaziland
    I can't agree more! a Wildebees is hard to put down at the best of times, and you will find spare 375 ammo almost anywhere. I would also encourage you to keep to your original idea of hunting with a 375.

    regards.
     
    sierraone likes this.

  18. 375 Ruger Fan

    375 Ruger Fan AH ENABLER GOLD SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2015
    Messages:
    2,790
    Video/Photo:
    180
    Likes Received:
    3,411
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Member of:
    NRA, DSC
    Hunted:
    Namibia, Zimbabwe, New Zealand, South Africa (Eastern Cape & NW), Alaska, TX, LA, MO, OH, MT, ID, WA, Canada (Yukon)
    Look on Gunbroker.com, there is a 375 H&H in Ruger No.1 with nice wood, currently at ~$550. There is also a 375 Ruger. Another couple of good online sources that I've bought guns from are Bud's Guns and also RealGuns.com
     

  19. sestoppelman

    sestoppelman AH ENABLER AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    5,282
    Video/Photo:
    93
    Likes Received:
    3,165
    Member of:
    NRA, NA Hunt Club
    Hunted:
    Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
    None of the above! In the Ruger No. 1 you have another wonderful option, the 9.3x74R! You get the same ballistics as the 62 with the potential for a little more if you handload and a big rim for the extractor. Brass is no problem, same caliber, but a classic single shot/double rifle cartridge. BTW, I found a BEAUTIFULLY stocked No.1 so chambered on GB for under a grand. I have had two of these and they shot great. Look it over before you decide. BTW, No.1 rifles kick pretty hard in the bigger cals.
     

  20. Ado

    Ado AH Veteran

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    148
    Video/Photo:
    1
    Likes Received:
    130
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    Member of:
    SSAA, RW, SCI
    Hunted:
    Australia, South Africa, NZ
    30-06 and the 375 H&H are a perfect pair.

    I tend to think in battery terms... If you have both of these, then how about bigger again for when you finally have an ele in your sights - read 458 Lott or WM...

    With my 30-06 and 375 H&H, I really don't see the need for anything in between.

    That said the 9.3x62 (or other 9.3 varietal) is a wonderful caliber full of character.

    No help I know...:)

    Ado
     
    BWH and ActionBob like this.

Share This Page

 
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice