Ticks in the US and Lyme disease

[PARA45]

I’ve had tick fever, I was down for around 3 weeks. Not something I want to endure again.

I am a tick magnet, and if there is a tick with a mile, I'll end up with it. Ive been lucky with the ticks here in the SE. However, last year coming back from SA, one little bugger was on my leg. 5-7 days later I came down with tick fever and had the symptoms for 2-3 days, but those days it sucked, my whole body ached. Antibiotics did the trick, and you need two week's worth.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

An ounce of prevention…

I use permethrin 36.8% concentrate and dilute it down to 0.5%. I put it in a 1/2 gallon pump sprayer and go to town on our clothes and gear. We allow them to dry (and off gas) completely in the garage.

This is 1/2 gallon of diluted solution is typically enough for a weekend of turkey hunting clothing and gear. It’s also much less expensive than buying the Sawyer product.

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I have done the same thing when heading to Africa. One thing I've read is the commercial concentrates tend to have oil base (petroleum distilates) vs a water base formula for products like Sawyers that are intended to treat clothing. The oil base products might discolor clothing and also cause skin irritation. Neither of these issues occurred with me. I mixed about 4 gallons up in a 5 gallon bucket and completely soak pants, shirts and socks. Wring them out and hang in the garage to air dry.

 

[Hunt anything]

When I was infected it was on one of my midday walks. I had sprayed down with bug dope containing deet along with my boots but somehow a deer tick dropped down between my boot and attached just above my ankle, I felt something itching when I got back to the truck and I ran my finger down to scratch. I came back with what I thought was the whole tick but as it turned out it was everything but the head. Later that afternoon it started itching again and when I got home I was able to get the head out but not in time.
Normally it takes longer than the 6 hours of attachment for any disease to be transferred but I definitely don’t believe that. That year I had been lax on keeping my trails mowed and will not allow that to happen again. I feel certain the tick was in the long knee high grass just waiting for a sucker like me to come along.

 

[Tucketed]

Sawyers works like a charm. Do we really use enough in a season for gallons? I can wash my pants 4 or 5 times per treatment with no degradation so one bottle of Sawyers does the trick for me.

 

[BeeMaa]

I have done the same thing when heading to Africa. One thing I've read is the commercial concentrates tend to have oil base (petroleum distilates) vs a water base formula for products like Sawyers that are intended to treat clothing. The oil base products might discolor clothing and also cause skin irritation. Neither of these issues occurred with me. I mixed about 4 gallons up in a 5 gallon bucket and completely soak pants, shirts and socks. Wring them out and hang in the garage to air dry.

We do the same for Africa trips, or any hunting/camping we have planned.

I’ve not experienced any issues with irritation. But it’s important to remember that the clothes need to be COMPLETELY dry before wearing.

We do keep an aerosol can of it when we are on the trip, just in case something needs further attention or reapplication.

 

[BeeMaa]

Sawyers works like a charm. Do we really use enough in a season for gallons? I can wash my pants 4 or 5 times per treatment with no degradation so one bottle of Sawyers does the trick for me.

I suppose it depends on how much you use and your potential exposure.

My wife insists on it for her “gardening” trousers and shirts. Plus we live an active outdoor life that has us in the weeds several times a month. It’s pretty easy to treat the clothes and gear. How much you spend doing it is up to you.

 

[MS 9x56]

I have been afflicted with Lyme disease (diagnosed in 2013) for going on 13 years now. The worst part is it can flare back up without being bitten again. It can be debilitating at times but there are supplements you can take that help immensely. If you have been bitten by a tick see a doctor and get the blood test to ensure you do not have Lyme. I am lucky in that my Dr also has Lyme (not lucky for him) and has done exhaustive research on the disease and treatments. It can be controlled and if caught early cured.

 

[coyote wacker]

An ounce of prevention…

I use permethrin 36.8% concentrate and dilute it down to 0.5%. I put it in a 1/2 gallon pump sprayer and go to town on our clothes and gear. We allow them to dry (and off gas) completely in the garage.

This is 1/2 gallon of diluted solution is typically enough for a weekend of turkey hunting clothing and gear. It’s also much less expensive than buying the Sawyer product.

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Mix with alcohol even rubbing alcohol will work. Will mix very good plus will dry out fast. Just make sure not to spray near any possible open flame.

 

[farmer_john]

Sawyers works like a charm. Do we really use enough in a season for gallons? I can wash my pants 4 or 5 times per treatment with no degradation so one bottle of Sawyers does the trick for me.

Its not so much do you use enough for gallons. But for the price of one bottle of sawyers you can get a concentrate that will when diluted make gallons. And takes up very little space.

If you look at my above post one bottle of 13.3% concentrate will make 30 bottle something worth of sawyers just put one ounce in a old sawyers bottle and top off with water.

 

[rookhawk]

The leading journal on Bioethics had a paper published this week on Tick Bites. It was co-authored by two leftist ethicists. I STRONGLY encourage you read it.

In summary:

1.) They think we should stop all research on treatments and vaccines for Alpha-Gal syndrome.

2.) Humans should not eat animals. By infecting humans via tickborne Alpha-Gal, they will never be able to eat red meat again.

3.) We should engineer and release lone-star ticks that are more resistant to regional weather and temperature that are also infected with Alpha-Gal to create forced vegetarianism in the population.

I cannot believe that the leading bioethics journal thought that this paper was ethical. Very dangerous people are in the sciences these days.

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[Red Leg]

We are very fortunate here in central Texas. Our place is right on the San Gabriel and we are dealing with brush, down limbs, or even down trees weekly and take the dogs for a couple of walks daily through the pasture and along the river. In a dozen years we have seen maybe half a dozen ticks (none deer or lone star) and had a single one attach each of us in that period.

Northern Virginia was a different environment. Deer tacks were everywhere and my spouse had Lyme Disease twice. In her case her eyes were affected.

 

[Keelebilly]

These tick borne diseases are no joke. We have a lot of ticks moving to new locations in the US plus new ticks that have spread from other countries. These foreign ticks are bringing in diseases that we didn’t previously have. There’s a new tick called the Asian longhorn tick that carries a bad blood parasite called theileria. It is deadly to cattle and has no treatment. Babesia ia spreading up from Mexico and Lyme is spreading across the east coast into the interior of the country. Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever is on the uprise as well as Lyme. Keep the ticks off your livestock, your pets, and yourselves

 

[BeeMaa]

Mix with alcohol even rubbing alcohol will work. Will mix very good plus will dry out fast. Just make sure not to spray near any possible open flame.

It dries in 24 hours so it’s not a problem for us. The smell remains for much longer and never really goes away until it not effective anymore. My wife isn’t very fond of the smell but recognizes the benefits of using the product.

 

[pilar]

These tick borne diseases are no joke. We have a lot of ticks moving to new locations in the US plus new ticks that have spread from other countries. These foreign ticks are bringing in diseases that we didn’t previously have. There’s a new tick called the Asian longhorn tick that carries a bad blood parasite called theileria. It is deadly to cattle and has no treatment. Babesia ia spreading up from Mexico and Lyme is spreading across the east coast into the interior of the country. Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever is on the uprise as well as Lyme. Keep the ticks off your livestock, your pets, and yourselves

I don’t know all the correlation100%? but 100% of the friends and family who have claimed to have Lyme disease have pets, and 100% of those people let their pets sleep in their beds or on the furniture., so hell yes keep ticks off your self by taking precautions starting with the pets ! ( I sleep in my boxers and doubt anyone will treat their bedding with anything to prevent ticks)
I quit feeding the deer in my yard because of the ticks them and hogs are completely covered in them.
I’m halfway joking but it’s worth thinking about letting pets lounge around in your bed

 

[etsonaut]

The one that scares me is the alphagal allergy that makes you allergic to meats

That one is on the rise.

 

[Ridge Runner]

The leading journal on Bioethics had a paper published this week on Tick Bites. It was co-authored by two leftist ethicists. I STRONGLY encourage you read it.

In summary:

1.) They think we should stop all research on treatments and vaccines for Alpha-Gal syndrome.

2.) Humans should not eat animals. By infecting humans via tickborne Alpha-Gal, they will never be able to eat red meat again.

3.) We should engineer and release lone-star ticks that are more resistant to regional weather and temperature that are also infected with Alpha-Gal to create forced vegetarianism in the population.

I cannot believe that the leading bioethics journal thought that this paper was ethical. Very dangerous people are in the sciences these days.

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JMPO.....Need to find the authors of the paper, the editor, and the CEO of the publications; have them confined to a anti terrorist black site for domestic biological terrorism.

We don't need these idiots running loose in any society.

 

[rookhawk]

That one is on the rise.

I always joke that Alpha-Gal infection makes you gay. People correct me and say it means you can't eat red meat. Same difference.

 

[Red Leg]

I don’t know all the correlation100%? but 100% of the friends and family who have claimed to have Lyme disease have pets, and 100% of those people let their pets sleep in their beds or on the furniture., so hell yes keep ticks off your self by taking precautions starting with the pets ! ( I sleep in my boxers and doubt anyone will treat their bedding with anything to prevent ticks)
I quit feeding the deer in my yard because of the ticks them and hogs are completely covered in them.
I’m halfway joking but it’s worth thinking about letting pets lounge around in your bed

Ours take a quarterly Bravecto dose that keeps them free of anything with six legs. https://www.chewy.com/bravecto-chew-dogs-44-88-lbs-blue-box/dp/172909

 

[Hunt anything]

Ours take a quarterly Bravecto dose that keeps them free of anything with six legs. https://www.chewy.com/bravecto-chew-dogs-44-88-lbs-blue-box/dp/172909

We put out a product called “Top Choice” in the one acre of yard we have fenced in. It takes care of fire ants, fleas and ticks for up to a year. It takes 80#/acre but has to be bought and applied by someone with a chemical applicators license.

 

[pilar]

Ours take a quarterly Bravecto dose that keeps them free of anything with six legs. https://www.chewy.com/bravecto-chew-dogs-44-88-lbs-blue-box/dp/172909

Bravecto will not prevent ticks from catching a ride into your bed or couch, car
“”

• A tick must bite your pet and consume the treated blood. The chemicals in the blood attack the tick's nervous system, causing paralysis and death before the tick can transmit diseases.
• Timeline: Parasites typically die within 6 to 12 hours of biting.
• Examples: Products like Bravecto or NexGard utilize classes of drugs like isoxazolines to block the parasite's nerve receptors

Only a topical that is distributed through the hair and skin will prevent this
“”
Topical Medications (Spot-on Treatments)

• How it works: Liquid medicine is applied directly to the skin, usually between the shoulders or along the back.
• The process: The medication spreads across the body's natural oils or gets deposited into the sebaceous glands. It kills ticks on contact, meaning the tick does not always need to take a blood meal to die.””

fwiw my family has a veterinarian in it and he prescribed Frontline for us here at the house, I personally like Bravecto because I think it is also a heart worm and intestinal worm prevention ?

I had my agronomist buy me some Demon to spray and he also likes top choice as a granular insecticide