The 460 G & A

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  1. Von Gruff

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    I mentioned this cartridge in another thread so here is the article here from the original article by TomSaitos in the 1971 Guns and Ammo magazine
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  2. Von Gruff

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    The 460 G&A is a great cartridge (as was its namesake, Guns & Ammo, back in the day).
     

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    I never heard of that cartridge. I loved the article though, thanks for sharing! I wonder why it never caught on in the main stream though? I mean midway between .458 WM and .460 Weatherby Mag seems like a great idea seeing as how the Weatherby entry pushes most .458 cal. bullets beyond the design velocity range. I know the .458 Lott has a large following but is really only 200 fps faster and generates approx. 872 foot pounds of energy more than the Winchester apples to apples. This would have been a great caliber in the mainstream in my humble opinion.
     

  5. Von Gruff

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    I know Jaques Lott thought it was about the best balance for the 458 cartridge but in all honesty I think that is was the dual use of the Lott chamber to fire the 458 Win Mag that became the overriding factor in his change of allegiance. I had one guy here in NZ quite some time back who had chambered his rifle for the 460 G&A and was really best pleased with it. I know that if I was to look at a heavy rifle in this bore size it would get my attention over any win mag or lott chambering.
     
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    There was/is a 460 G&A Short, too (basically the same, shortened to work in a standard action).
     

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    It's a shame that the .460 G&A never became mainstream, but with the resurgence of the .404 Jeffery, loading should not be to much of a problem. I don't think the article mentioned specific numbers but the chamber pressure should run a good bit lower than the .458 Lott, combine that with the beltless case with good taper and the .460 G&A should feed and extract very smoothly. Looks very similar to the newer .450 Rigby (and .450 Dakota)that offers about the same performance but is based on the .416 Rigby case instead of the .404 Jeffery.
     

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    an interesting cartridge, thanks for posting the article.

    the idea isn't bad and im betting the main reason it didn't stick around longer is because the 404 Jeffery was such a rare critter. the 458 Lott won out for the same reason the 300 WM, 7mm RM, 338 WM, and the 416 RM have stuck around. the 375 H&H case is widely available and is easily modified to bores ranging from .264" all the way up to .474".

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