SWIFT A-Frame 300 gn bullets in a 9.3x62 what performance can I expect?

[Gert Odendaal]

Members, I have bought 300gn SWIFT A-Frame bullets for my open sights walk/stalk Musgrave 9.3x62 cal Mauser ...what are your opinions in regards to the .300gn bullets ?

 

[Surgeon1]

They should work like a charm Load them HOT if you can

 

[Sarg]

Fantastic Gert, you can’t do better in the 9.3 but really too good for less than Buffalo & Eland, it will take anything but maybe a little stiff for smaller stuff !

I searched the planet for some to use on Forest Buffalo in my 9.3 but only found Barnes X 286gr which I would have used but it didn’t pan out .

 

[Gert Odendaal]

They should work like a charm Load them HOT if you can

THE 300gn bullets really are the heavy for caliber bullets ..I was wondering what muzzle velocity will be reached ????? Do you shoot 300gn SWIFT A-Frame bullets in your 9.3x62 Surgeon 1??

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Fantastic Gert, you can’t do better in the 9.3 but really too good for less than Buffalo & Eland, it will take anything but maybe a little stiff for smaller stuff !

Sarge, I have an oppertunity to buy these SWIFT A-Frame bullets from another hunter here in South Africa for less than halve the price you will pay for new SWIFT A-Frame bullets if you can get them in South Africa..I will then dedicate these SWIFT A-Frame bullets only for hunting then..Eland cow and Blue wildebees will be on the menu as well as Kudu ..

 

[One Day...]

Awesome Gert. They should perform near perfection

Contrarily to Surgeon1 I would NOT recommend to try to go fast with them. Their maximum penetration will be achieved at medium velocity, in the 2,300 to 2,350 fps range, following the receipe that made the nine-three a legend.

There is ample documentation of this and many suggested loads in the 9.3x62 Mauser Journal or in The Perfect Shot II by folks who have individually and collectively a lot more experience than all of us here on AH put together

 

[Sarg]

Sarge, I have an oppertunity to buy these SWIFT A-Frame bullets from another hunter here in South Africa for less than halve the price you will pay for new SWIFT A-Frame bullets if you can get them in South Africa..I will then dedicate these SWIFT A-Frame bullets only for hunting then..Eland cow and Blue wildebees will be on the menu as well as Kudu ..

For sure do that but to make it fully worth while for you I hope you can get more than 50 a 100 would be good, work up a load & shoot big tough animals till you die !

Then leave them to someone in your Will lol !

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Awesome Gert. They should perform near perfection

Contrarily to Surgeon1 I would NOT recommend to try to go fast with them. Their maximum penetration will be achieved at medium velocity, i.e. following the receipe that make the nine-three a legend.

There is ample documentation of this and many suggested loads in the 9.3x62 Journal or in The Perfect Shot II by folks who have individually and collectively a lot more experience than all of us here on AH put together

If I can have a muzzle velocity of 2350f/s with the SWIFT A-Frame in the 300gn weight while doing the open sight walk /stalk hunting I think it will have good penetration and minimal meat damage ...I would like to hear from members who shoot the 9.3x62 caliber rifles ...it will be much appreciated and if possible give your loads where you use a 300gn bullet to hunt with your 9.3x62 caliber hunting rifle ...

 

[baxterb]

Be careful of OAL. The 300 gr 9.3 is a swaged 375. The 300 gr 9.3 is second from left in this pic. They got stuck in my chamber even at standard OAL.

The black line is appx where they hit the lands:

L-R
250 TTSX
300 Gr SWift
286 North Fork (what I use)
286 Woodleigh
250 Woodleigh RN
286 North Fork Cup Point
286 Barnes FN Solid

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I am only able to have 83mm OAL in my 9.3X62 rifle, so I will then not be able to re-load these bullets I assume??

 

[Warren Knudsen]

A great bullet, that will give some of the deepest penitration from the 9.3x62, i load them with RR17 and am getting 2300fps comfortably.

 

[One Day...]

If I can have a muzzle velocity of 2350f/s with the SWIFT A-Frame in the 300gn weight while doing the open sight walk /stalk hunting I think it will have good penetration and minimal meat damage ...I would like to hear from members who shoot the 9.3x62 caliber rifles ...it will be much appreciated and if possible give your loads where you use a 300gn bullet to hunt with your 9.3x62 caliber hunting rifle ...

Because I do not reload yet, I am using the Barnes factory load 286 TSX. They are 81.3 mm long and clock 2,330 fps in my R8 barrel. Sadly, Barnes discontinued this load apparently almost 10 years ago, but I had a good pile of it, so I only discovered this recently when I tried to replenish my stock...

Performance has been flawless. For example, it went lengthwise through this Sable.

FYI, I also use extensively the cheap PPU 285 gr soft point ammo on small game. It works to perfection and saves the more expensive bullets for tougher work

 

[Gert Odendaal]

A great bullet, that will give some of the deepest penitration from the 9.3x62, i load them with RR17 and am getting 2300fps comfortably.

I need to know what the over all length is what members use for these SWIFT A-Frame 300 gn bullets??? I really want to buy the Swift bullets , but if it is not going to work in my magazine box I need to find something else

 

[SStomcat]

Members, I have bought 300gn SWIFT A-Frame bullets for my open sights walk/stalk Musgrave 9.3x62 cal Mauser ...what are your opinions in regards to the .300gn bullets ?

Ideal weight, as you may know, is 286-grain bullets. Good for anything in NA and Africa, except probably Elephant.

I am only able to have 83mm OAL in my 9.3X62 rifle, so I will then not be able to re-load these bullets I assume??

Why not? 3.150" to 3.205" is the normal Coal for common loads. ~79 mm to ~81.4 mm

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Be careful of OAL. The 300 gr 9.3 is a swaged 375. The 300 gr 9.3 is second from left in this pic. They got stuck in my chamber even at standard OAL.

The black line is appx where they hit the lands:

L-R
250 TTSX
300 Gr SWift
286 North Fork (what I use)
286 Woodleigh
250 Woodleigh RN
286 North Fork Cup Point
286 Barnes FN Solid

Please provide AOL for the 300gn bullets you use??

 

[SStomcat]

I use PPU; it has knocked every animal in NA, is deadly accurate, cheap, and easily available.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Ideal weight, as you may know, is 286-grain bullets. Good for anything in NA and Africa, except probably Elephant.

Why not? 3.150" to 3.205" is the normal Coal for common loads. ~79 mm to ~81.4 mm

I reload according to what my magazine box is able accommodate.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Looking at SONCHEM reloading data it seems the SWIFT A-Frame will work

 

[akrifleman]

I reload according to what my magazine box is able accommodate.

Perhaps loading to throat geometry, case intrusion, and pressure are important.

I suspect you mean your not worried about spec OAL, if the magazine and load supports it.

 

[One Day...]

Maybe I am missing something, Gert, but if your rifle allows 83mm OAL, this is longer than typical 9.3x62 loads maximim OAL (82 mm), and if Barnes is able to load the long 286 TSX in 81.3 mm AOL, loading the much shorter 300 gr AFrame to something like 82.5 mm AOL should not be an issue, assuming the throat on the rifle is not uncommonly short and the bullet clears the lands.